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Message-ID: References: Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Level: X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.80 / 50.00]; BAYES_HAM(-3.00)[100.00%]; SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS(1.50)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.20)[-0.999]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_SIGNED(0.00)[suse.de:s=susede2_rsa,suse.de:s=susede2_ed25519]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FUZZY_RATELIMITED(0.00)[rspamd.com]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVRCPT(0.00)[gmail.com]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[pobox.com,ttaylorr.com,gmail.com,vger.kernel.org]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; DBL_BLOCKED_OPENRESOLVER(0.00)[kitsune.suse.cz:mid,kitsune.suse.cz:helo,pks.im:email] X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.80 On Tue, Oct 07, 2025 at 12:27:23PM +0200, Patrick Steinhardt wrote: > On Thu, Oct 02, 2025 at 06:10:22PM +0200, Michal Suchánek wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 02, 2025 at 08:32:38AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: > > > Patrick Steinhardt writes: > > > > > > > Once we have roadmaps, we should set a strict deadline that takes them > > > > into account. Any hosting provider or implementation of Git that doesn't > > > > provide a roadmap will not be taken into account in our planning. > > > > > > Works fine as long as we assume everybody that matters will > > > eventually want to move away from SHA-1. > > > > > > - If a stakeholder gives a roadmap that has no SHA-256 in their > > > future, in other words, if they are content to serve only the > > > SHA-1 projects, what's the impact to them? We are not dropping > > > the support for SHA-1 in the sense that if you clone from an > > > existing SHA-1 repository you'll get an SHA-1 repository and you > > > can push and fetch between them just fine, so presumably that is > > > fine as well. > > > > > > - If a stakeholder gives a roadmap with SHA-256 so far into the > > > future that we cannot wait, what's the impact to them? Their > > > customers that want SHA-256 earlier than they can supply could > > > move to other hosting or implementation, but not really. Both > > > > I suppose that's already the case to some extent. git does support > > sha256, some forges do as well, and some people want it to the point > > that they install such forge, and create the sha256 repositories > > although it is not the default. > > > > There is some tradeoff here. When it's nice to have but not required > > people will use it when convenient. When it's really required people > > will use even an obscure implementation to get the requested feature. > > True. In any case, I think that for now we should just wait how such > roadmaps would look like and then discuss based on the findings. > > The question of course is how to get such roadmaps. The easiest way to > do it is probably to gather a list of known projects that would be > impacted and just shoot maintainers or representatives of those an > email? From the top of my head, that would include: > > - Implementations > - libgit2 - pygit2 > - JGit > - Gitoxide > - go-git > - Forges > - GitHub > - GitLab > - Bitbucket > - Forgejo - Gitea > - SourceHut Thanks Michal