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[104.178.186.189]) by smtp.gmail.com with UTF8SMTPSA id 8926c6da1cb9f-57b5ec0b026sm7482698173.59.2025.10.08.14.44.57 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 08 Oct 2025 14:44:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 17:44:56 -0400 From: Taylor Blau To: rsbecker@nexbridge.com Cc: 'Luca Milanesio' , git@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: When should we release Git 3.0? Message-ID: References: <04f501dc330a$0ecd3010$2c679030$@nexbridge.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <04f501dc330a$0ecd3010$2c679030$@nexbridge.com> On Wed, Oct 01, 2025 at 03:31:54PM -0400, rsbecker@nexbridge.com wrote: > On October 1, 2025 12:05 PM, Taylor Blau wrote: > >On Wed, Oct 01, 2025 at 08:13:12AM +0100, Luca Milanesio wrote: > >> I am worried that if we rush into Git 3.0 with breaking changes that > >> would make other “forges” (e.g. JGit) incompatible, we would be in a > >> difficult situation with the other Git ecosystem that isn’t based on > >> the C-Git implementation. > > > >That's a good point. I am not familiar enough with JGit (or really any non-standard > >Git implementations) to know where SHA-256 support is in those respective > >implementations. > > AFAIK, JGit still depends on some core git functions, including gc. It > also depends on LFS for those functions. Interop it fairly important > in that space. What are "core git functions" here? I'm not at all familiar with JGit, but my understanding is that it doesn't use the Git binary directly whatsoever, so I am not sure how the presence of interop support or not would affect JGit or LFS. Thanks, Taylor