From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from complex.crustytoothpaste.net (complex.crustytoothpaste.net [172.105.7.114]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D44E62D9EE5 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2025 21:42:16 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=172.105.7.114 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1760650939; cv=none; b=mvVhUbmMPc0KxBDlcqGamoOp491rRYp1VO3FKjmc7G7RfCLngkcTWSvV8fyrhd3xQ1zKNVEtlKUSx5dYH86Ptq7coCNlbeAFMJi8UGYGkDDeyIsHwwSQluWc+nZSLTMZECWL2ZrUTbekKMGMVX8SBsI52uSTzJrT/6NruK1zLhA= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1760650939; c=relaxed/simple; bh=Fkf+VVwZdDZNCDa3J6pyNM5QV3FnnPxa/MdSQK3QOuI=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=qONS6i2D9n3ASOpw0N2RNlp7OqV8HM8x8e8cRr/fYnki3P0KmJNml/302zYWKlsGc6oFRgFNZ2ubUAAuqnB6OEr4MpMSBQYGzDvZ1GtJf/yaOIdnW86cvKhCbaaQ/gp6rJZ2iKfmnRw7dBL4VvJPhOyMCVYcGKi6k1V/WMKxobs= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=crustytoothpaste.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=crustytoothpaste.net; dkim=pass (3072-bit key) header.d=crustytoothpaste.net header.i=@crustytoothpaste.net header.b=zeH1o8i2; arc=none smtp.client-ip=172.105.7.114 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=crustytoothpaste.net Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=crustytoothpaste.net Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (3072-bit key) header.d=crustytoothpaste.net header.i=@crustytoothpaste.net header.b="zeH1o8i2" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=crustytoothpaste.net; s=default; t=1760650936; bh=Fkf+VVwZdDZNCDa3J6pyNM5QV3FnnPxa/MdSQK3QOuI=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Content-Type: Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:From:Reply-To:Subject:Date:To:CC: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:In-Reply-To:References: Content-Type:Content-Disposition; b=zeH1o8i2b9KZwG5GDgVvVJ8m6d6LY24+mRcoxtIvGK8J4PwHyfPOtd6CYj6L2GKVL cd6tHMRlLW+FrOjtjnZtC049BzpV5AkxfOugwjCNu+wf1eYVeq9FcL3Z5Gh02NxZAT nmwcDnL+E+H2hyq+/AaqSx7AactK7CazeM8OhnVM9aMX1QUbMKSphMiqBwqvkN7uxn opIVKt7j+n+e6VqqhlbQM8P/ZC7P2vbp6gF/FOvrW8uFdNW303c69c5o+yzSsgJIkm kcwf5fZ0vflUCN22GmqidxWl1EcqtB9R8KaojMkVQwyQ59z9MwZv1qkhs2dRWwVwhk CigtZhMEXTUwEGtSHokICSmDvOFBAMtYNFli0RDe+bhbmOJ6mw2wbBQ1TMPiQbxTEw fWxiQzBM8jKi2rnuU+FXr3lalkehTwr2MWGfwd1pZ85Var0LsO+xuoekRL5GnH0kkn oA6zDMqeU6xSBCbzHmj0pSVbgC8Qp1Ici/C3g/FR/8/W1m5nkdp Received: from fruit.crustytoothpaste.net (unknown [IPv6:2607:f2c0:f00f:f901:5c18:db3b:8800:f1b6]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (prime256v1) server-signature ECDSA (prime256v1) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by complex.crustytoothpaste.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F0719200BA; Thu, 16 Oct 2025 21:42:15 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 21:42:14 +0000 From: "brian m. carlson" To: Taylor Blau Cc: Patrick Steinhardt , Luca Milanesio , git@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: When should we release Git 3.0? Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: "brian m. carlson" , Taylor Blau , Patrick Steinhardt , Luca Milanesio , git@vger.kernel.org References: Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="iUrWFLZLGhK2XIYu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.13 (2024-03-09) --iUrWFLZLGhK2XIYu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2025-10-08 at 21:59:03, Taylor Blau wrote: > I would imagine that the definition of "roadmap" here is fairly > lightweight, since I imagine that some organizations may not want to > share details beyond "we will have it done by X date". Certainly. I think the more details stakeholders are willing to give us, though, the more flexible we can be. If a forge says, "we're about 75% done, but our CI product needs another month," that's a more compelling argument than, "well, we just need another month for reasons," especially if their previous deadline has already slipped (which tends to happen on software projects, as we all know). For open source projects, of course, seeing progress is relatively easy. Many companies may have alpha or beta programs and could share that status with us if they don't wish to be more specific. --=20 brian m. carlson (they/them) Toronto, Ontario, CA --iUrWFLZLGhK2XIYu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.4.8 (GNU/Linux) iHUEABYKAB0WIQQILOaKnbxl+4PRw5F8DEliiIeigQUCaPFmtgAKCRB8DEliiIei gR6gAP9c5w5TOZ5vIc3Q8bjMH2ZsOLKCOSQpYmXfOSSg3KwPmQEA9PbrsGBmK5mS AfuV1UzH2eSqgjxGp2fEFUdUyCkwaAU= =mb6U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --iUrWFLZLGhK2XIYu--