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From: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
To: Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] maintenance: add 'is-needed' subcommand
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2025 06:54:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aQmU_hOPO55_ojw2@pks.im> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOLa=ZSsEygvz1_aj4KomfF0Jo0vJi3yVLtJbhLX=RLgW6_GzQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 03, 2025 at 09:18:35AM -0800, Karthik Nayak wrote:
> Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:
> 
> > On Fri, Oct 31, 2025 at 03:22:25PM +0100, Karthik Nayak wrote:
> >> diff --git a/Documentation/git-maintenance.adoc b/Documentation/git-maintenance.adoc
> >> index 540b5cf68b..edcc88f4d0 100644
> >> --- a/Documentation/git-maintenance.adoc
> >> +++ b/Documentation/git-maintenance.adoc
> >> @@ -84,6 +85,11 @@ The `unregister` subcommand will report an error if the current repository
> >>  is not already registered. Use the `--force` option to return success even
> >>  when the current repository is not registered.
> >>
> >> +is-needed::
> >> +    Check whether maintenance needs to be run without actually running it.
> >> +    Exits with a 0 status code if maintenance needs to be run, 1 otherwise.
> >> +    Can be used along with `--task`. Ideally should be used with '--auto'.
> >
> > Okay. I assume when `--task` is not given we'll check all tasks
> > specified by the configured strategy? Might make sense to document if
> > so.
> >
> 
> Actually no. It's similar to the 'run' command, if nothing is specified,
> we check `maintenance.<task>.enabled`. By default it is only enabled for
> 'gc'. This is important information, I will add it in.

But we use `initialize_task_config()`, and that function knows to use
the configured strategy unless it's given an explicit list of tasks. So
we do use the maintenance strategy.

> >> diff --git a/builtin/gc.c b/builtin/gc.c
> >> index 72177305ff..4d20487ed6 100644
> >> --- a/builtin/gc.c
> >> +++ b/builtin/gc.c
[snip]
> >> +	} else {
> >> +		/* When not using --auto, we should always require maintenance. */
> >> +		is_needed = true;
> >> +	}
> >
> > I guess for now this is good enough, but it's not quite true. Some tasks
> > won't require maintenance even without `--auto`, like for example when
> > the reftable stack only has a single table.
> >
> > Patrick
> 
> Good point. Thought I'm not sure how we'd go about it. Initially I
> wanted to not have an `--auto` flag and simply make it the default
> behavior. But that would restrict us from introducing the `schedule`
> flag in the future. Which I think might be a worthwhile addition.

Yeah, agreed.

I guess eventually we could extend `auto_condition()` to honor the
"--auto" flag:

  - If it's set the task verifies that it needs to trigger housekeeping
    tasks with heuristics.

  - Otherwise it checks whether there even is anything that could be
    cleaned up.

But that's certainly out of scope of this patch series, I think it's
good enough to bail on that specific part for now.

Patrick

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-04  5:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-31 14:22 [PATCH 0/5] maintenance: add an 'is-needed' subcommand Karthik Nayak
2025-10-31 14:22 ` [PATCH 1/5] reftable/stack: return stack segments directly Karthik Nayak
2025-10-31 16:22   ` Justin Tobler
2025-11-03 15:05     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-11-03 18:03       ` Justin Tobler
2025-10-31 14:22 ` [PATCH 2/5] reftable/stack: add function to check if optimization is required Karthik Nayak
2025-10-31 17:02   ` Justin Tobler
2025-10-31 18:17     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-11-03 16:20       ` Karthik Nayak
2025-11-03 15:51     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-11-03 17:59       ` Justin Tobler
2025-11-03 14:00   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-11-03 16:35     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-10-31 14:22 ` [PATCH 3/5] refs: add a `optimize_required` field to `struct ref_storage_be` Karthik Nayak
2025-10-31 14:22 ` [PATCH 4/5] maintenance: add checking logic in `pack_refs_condition()` Karthik Nayak
2025-11-03 14:00   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-11-03 17:04     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-10-31 14:22 ` [PATCH 5/5] maintenance: add 'is-needed' subcommand Karthik Nayak
2025-11-03 14:00   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-11-03 17:18     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-11-04  5:54       ` Patrick Steinhardt [this message]
2025-11-04  8:28         ` Karthik Nayak
2025-11-04  8:43 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] maintenance: add an " Karthik Nayak
2025-11-04  8:43   ` [PATCH v2 1/5] reftable/stack: return stack segments directly Karthik Nayak
2025-11-04  8:43   ` [PATCH v2 2/5] reftable/stack: add function to check if optimization is required Karthik Nayak
2025-11-04 20:26     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-11-05 14:11       ` Karthik Nayak
2025-11-05 18:10         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-11-06  8:18           ` Karthik Nayak
2025-11-04  8:43   ` [PATCH v2 3/5] refs: add a `optimize_required` field to `struct ref_storage_be` Karthik Nayak
2025-11-04  8:43   ` [PATCH v2 4/5] maintenance: add checking logic in `pack_refs_condition()` Karthik Nayak
2025-11-04  8:44   ` [PATCH v2 5/5] maintenance: add 'is-needed' subcommand Karthik Nayak
2025-11-04 15:43   ` [PATCH v2 0/5] maintenance: add an " Junio C Hamano
2025-11-05 14:00     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-11-06  8:22 ` [PATCH v3 " Karthik Nayak
2025-11-06  8:22   ` [PATCH v3 1/5] reftable/stack: return stack segments directly Karthik Nayak
2025-11-06  8:22   ` [PATCH v3 2/5] reftable/stack: add function to check if optimization is required Karthik Nayak
2025-11-06 18:18     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-11-07  6:06       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-11-06  8:22   ` [PATCH v3 3/5] refs: add a `optimize_required` field to `struct ref_storage_be` Karthik Nayak
2025-11-06  8:22   ` [PATCH v3 4/5] maintenance: add checking logic in `pack_refs_condition()` Karthik Nayak
2025-11-06 11:58     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-11-06 13:04       ` Karthik Nayak
2025-11-06 15:24       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-11-07 15:58         ` Karthik Nayak
2025-11-07 16:41           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-11-07 15:58         ` Karthik Nayak
2025-11-06  8:22   ` [PATCH v3 5/5] maintenance: add 'is-needed' subcommand Karthik Nayak
2025-11-06 12:02     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-11-06 13:07       ` Karthik Nayak
2025-11-08 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] maintenance: add an " Karthik Nayak
2025-11-08 21:51   ` [PATCH v4 1/5] reftable/stack: return stack segments directly Karthik Nayak
2025-11-08 21:51   ` [PATCH v4 2/5] reftable/stack: add function to check if optimization is required Karthik Nayak
2025-11-08 21:51   ` [PATCH v4 3/5] refs: add a `optimize_required` field to `struct ref_storage_be` Karthik Nayak
2025-11-08 21:51   ` [PATCH v4 4/5] maintenance: add checking logic in `pack_refs_condition()` Karthik Nayak
2025-11-08 21:51   ` [PATCH v4 5/5] maintenance: add 'is-needed' subcommand Karthik Nayak
2025-11-10  6:46   ` [PATCH v4 0/5] maintenance: add an " Patrick Steinhardt

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