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From: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Ondrej Pohorelsky <opohorel@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>,
	Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] sideband: add options to allow more control sequences to be passed through
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2026 08:20:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aW3bSYCIPMhJT1mf@pks.im> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqq3445bn33.fsf@gitster.g>

On Fri, Jan 16, 2026 at 07:21:04AM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Ondrej Pohorelsky <opohorel@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > Hi, I just want to weight in from the downstream maintainer POV.
> > We've been carrying the patches Johannes has created in Fedora, CentOS
> > and RHEL for at least half a year now.
> > The only change I did is to make the new behavior opt-in by default
> > and give the RHEL customers a release note explaining it.
> 
> Thanks for your great input.  FWIW, I do not think anybody around
> here is against "opt-in with a note" approach at all.
> 
> > I think the patches proposed are making sense, and they should be
> > merged. Even having them as opt-in is better than not having them
> > merged at all.
> 
> I do not think anybody disagrees with this sentiment.  Back when the
> patches originally was discussed on the public list here, nobody was
> against adding it as an _optional_ feature to filter some byte
> sequences out of the end-user's data stream, and the review comments
> that led to the topic marked to be "expecting a reroll", if I recall
> correctly, were all about "why would we make this on by default?"
> Peff's message that reignited the topic this time around is also
> about the same.
> 
> We are still hearing from Dscho that he cannot think of a scenario
> where making this mandatory with opt-out would break existing
> legitimate setup people may have (I am paraphrasing [*]), but I
> think that is aiming in the wrong direction.  It does not matter if
> you consider the approach your users take is "broken by design"; as
> long as it works for them in their (limited) settings, it is a valid
> arrangement to send arbitrary byte sequence over the sideband even
> it happens to include ANSI escapes and other "curiosities".  We have
> in no position to unilaterally break them, telling them that we left
> a way open for them to disable.  That is not how to deliver features.

I think what I strongly disagree with is that this is considered to be a
feature. I myself don't consider this to be a feature though, but rather
a security fix for a bug that can lead to arbitrary code execution on
the client-side, for example via title bar injection.

It's not the first time that we change existing behaviour in a backwards
incompatible way because of a newly discovered attack vector. So I have
to wonder what's so different about this particular case here.

Patrick

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-01-19  7:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-14 18:19 [PATCH 0/3] Sanitize sideband channel messages Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2025-01-14 18:19 ` [PATCH 1/3] sideband: mask control characters Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2025-01-15 14:49   ` Phillip Wood
2025-12-02 15:43     ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-01-15 15:17   ` Andreas Schwab
2025-01-15 16:24     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-14 18:19 ` [PATCH 2/3] sideband: introduce an "escape hatch" to allow " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2025-01-14 18:19 ` [PATCH 3/3] sideband: do allow ANSI color sequences by default Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2025-01-14 22:50 ` [PATCH 0/3] Sanitize sideband channel messages brian m. carlson
2025-01-16  6:45   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-28 16:03     ` Ondrej Pohorelsky
2025-01-31 17:55       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-12-02 14:11     ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-12-03  0:47       ` brian m. carlson
2025-12-03  8:04         ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-01-15 14:49 ` Phillip Wood
2025-12-02 14:56   ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-12-17 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2025-12-17 14:23   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] sideband: mask control characters Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-09 12:38     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-01-16 19:29       ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-12-17 14:23   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] sideband: introduce an "escape hatch" to allow " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2025-12-18  2:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-12-18 17:59       ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-12-19 13:33         ` Junio C Hamano
2026-01-16 19:25           ` Johannes Schindelin
2026-01-09 12:38     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-12-17 14:23   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] sideband: do allow ANSI color sequences by default Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-09 12:38     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-01-16 19:38       ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-12-17 14:23   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] sideband: add options to allow more control sequences to be passed through Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-09 12:38     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-01-10 17:26       ` brian m. carlson
2026-01-15 21:14         ` Jeff King
2026-01-15 21:36           ` Junio C Hamano
2026-01-15 23:12             ` Johannes Schindelin
2026-01-16  6:45               ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-01-16 12:12                 ` Ondrej Pohorelsky
2026-01-16 15:21                   ` Junio C Hamano
2026-01-16 18:46                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2026-01-16 19:24                       ` Junio C Hamano
2026-01-19  7:20                     ` Patrick Steinhardt [this message]
2026-01-19 22:16                       ` brian m. carlson
2026-01-20  2:41                         ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-01-20 17:05                         ` Junio C Hamano
2026-01-20 19:31                           ` Jeff King
2026-01-20 20:11                             ` Junio C Hamano
2026-01-21  7:39                           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-01-22 12:29                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2026-01-22 17:58                             ` Junio C Hamano
2026-01-15 23:10           ` brian m. carlson
2026-02-03  1:11             ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-03  7:12               ` Johannes Schindelin
2026-02-03 19:00                 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-04 19:35               ` Junio C Hamano
2026-01-16 19:47       ` Johannes Schindelin
2026-01-16 22:26   ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Sanitize sideband channel messages Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-16 22:26     ` [PATCH v3 1/5] sideband: mask control characters Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-16 22:26     ` [PATCH v3 2/5] sideband: introduce an "escape hatch" to allow " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-16 22:26     ` [PATCH v3 3/5] sideband: do allow ANSI color sequences by default Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-16 22:26     ` [PATCH v3 4/5] sideband: add options to allow more control sequences to be passed through Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-16 22:26     ` [PATCH v3 5/5] sideband: offer to configure sanitizing on a per-URL basis Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-16 22:32     ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Sanitize sideband channel messages Johannes Schindelin
2026-02-03 10:17     ` [PATCH v4 0/6] " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-02-03 10:17       ` [PATCH v4 1/6] sideband: mask control characters Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-02-03 10:17       ` [PATCH v4 2/6] sideband: introduce an "escape hatch" to allow " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-02-03 10:17       ` [PATCH v4 3/6] sideband: do allow ANSI color sequences by default Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-02-03 10:18       ` [PATCH v4 4/6] sideband: add options to allow more control sequences to be passed through Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-02-03 10:18       ` [PATCH v4 5/6] sideband: offer to configure sanitizing on a per-URL basis Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-02-03 10:18       ` [PATCH v4 6/6] sideband: delay sanitizing by default to Git v3.0 Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-02-04 19:26       ` [PATCH v4 0/6] Sanitize sideband channel messages Junio C Hamano
2026-02-05 14:48         ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-13 23:50           ` Junio C Hamano
2026-03-02 18:11         ` [PATCH 0/3] Sanitizing sideband output Junio C Hamano
2026-03-02 18:11           ` [PATCH 1/3] sideband: drop 'default' configuration Junio C Hamano
2026-03-02 18:11           ` [PATCH 2/3] sideband: delay sanitizing by default to Git v3.0 Junio C Hamano
2026-03-02 18:11           ` [PATCH 3/3] sideband: conditional documentation fix Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 23:34       ` [PATCH v5 0/7] Sanitizing sideband output Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 23:34         ` [PATCH v5 1/7] sideband: mask control characters Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 23:34         ` [PATCH v5 2/7] sideband: introduce an "escape hatch" to allow " Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 23:34         ` [PATCH v5 3/7] sideband: do allow ANSI color sequences by default Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 23:34         ` [PATCH v5 4/7] sideband: add options to allow more control sequences to be passed through Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 23:34         ` [PATCH v5 5/7] sideband: offer to configure sanitizing on a per-URL basis Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 23:34         ` [PATCH v5 6/7] sideband: drop 'default' configuration Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 23:34         ` [PATCH v5 7/7] sideband: delay sanitizing by default to Git v3.0 Junio C Hamano

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