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From: "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>
To: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Cc: Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>,
	Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org>,
	Ondrej Pohorelsky <opohorel@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] sideband: add options to allow more control sequences to be passed through
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2026 17:26:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aWKLrIefrcSwReu2@fruit.crustytoothpaste.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aWD2x154F5f-c3pL@pks.im>

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On 2026-01-09 at 12:38:31, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2025 at 02:23:42PM +0000, Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget wrote:
> > From: Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
> > 
> > Even though control sequences that erase characters are quite juicy for
> > attack scenarios, where attackers are eager to hide traces of suspicious
> > activities, during the review of the side band sanitizing patch series
> > concerns were raised that there might be some legimitate scenarios where
> > Git server's `pre-receive` hooks use those sequences in a benign way.
> > 
> > Control sequences to move the cursor can likewise be used to hide tracks
> > by overwriting characters, and have been equally pointed out as having
> > legitimate users.
> > 
> > Let's add options to let users opt into passing through those ANSI
> > Escape sequences: `sideband.allowControlCharacters` now supports also
> > `cursor` and `erase`, and it parses the value as a comma-separated list.
> 
> Hm, okay. I don't really see much of a reason to allow these, but now
> that the code exists already I don't see a reason why we should remove
> those options again.

The reason these sequences, along with other sequences not mentioned in
this series, are useful is because people run tools like build tools
(e.g., Cargo) or linters in pre-receive hooks and print the output and
those use a substantial portion of possible escape sequences.  I did a
brief survey sometime back of pre-receive hooks on GitHub to see what
escape sequences were in use.

I think Heroku has a push-to-deploy technique that leverages this
approach to build and deploy your app, for instance.

This is one of the reasons that I was opposed to this series: it tends
to break what is a very common use case.  Certainly it is not as common
for cloud-based forge environments, but it is very common for people to
do these kinds of things in self-hosted forge environments (where custom
pre-receive hooks are commonly used) or in non-forge environments like
push-to-deploy.
-- 
brian m. carlson (they/them)
Toronto, Ontario, CA

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-10 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-14 18:19 [PATCH 0/3] Sanitize sideband channel messages Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2025-01-14 18:19 ` [PATCH 1/3] sideband: mask control characters Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2025-01-15 14:49   ` Phillip Wood
2025-12-02 15:43     ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-01-15 15:17   ` Andreas Schwab
2025-01-15 16:24     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-14 18:19 ` [PATCH 2/3] sideband: introduce an "escape hatch" to allow " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2025-01-14 18:19 ` [PATCH 3/3] sideband: do allow ANSI color sequences by default Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2025-01-14 22:50 ` [PATCH 0/3] Sanitize sideband channel messages brian m. carlson
2025-01-16  6:45   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-01-28 16:03     ` Ondrej Pohorelsky
2025-01-31 17:55       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-12-02 14:11     ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-12-03  0:47       ` brian m. carlson
2025-12-03  8:04         ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-01-15 14:49 ` Phillip Wood
2025-12-02 14:56   ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-12-17 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2025-12-17 14:23   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] sideband: mask control characters Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-09 12:38     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-01-16 19:29       ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-12-17 14:23   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] sideband: introduce an "escape hatch" to allow " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2025-12-18  2:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-12-18 17:59       ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-12-19 13:33         ` Junio C Hamano
2026-01-16 19:25           ` Johannes Schindelin
2026-01-09 12:38     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-12-17 14:23   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] sideband: do allow ANSI color sequences by default Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-09 12:38     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-01-16 19:38       ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-12-17 14:23   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] sideband: add options to allow more control sequences to be passed through Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-09 12:38     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-01-10 17:26       ` brian m. carlson [this message]
2026-01-15 21:14         ` Jeff King
2026-01-15 21:36           ` Junio C Hamano
2026-01-15 23:12             ` Johannes Schindelin
2026-01-16  6:45               ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-01-16 12:12                 ` Ondrej Pohorelsky
2026-01-16 15:21                   ` Junio C Hamano
2026-01-16 18:46                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2026-01-16 19:24                       ` Junio C Hamano
2026-01-19  7:20                     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-01-19 22:16                       ` brian m. carlson
2026-01-20  2:41                         ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-01-20 17:05                         ` Junio C Hamano
2026-01-20 19:31                           ` Jeff King
2026-01-20 20:11                             ` Junio C Hamano
2026-01-21  7:39                           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-01-22 12:29                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2026-01-22 17:58                             ` Junio C Hamano
2026-01-15 23:10           ` brian m. carlson
2026-02-03  1:11             ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-03  7:12               ` Johannes Schindelin
2026-02-03 19:00                 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-04 19:35               ` Junio C Hamano
2026-01-16 19:47       ` Johannes Schindelin
2026-01-16 22:26   ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Sanitize sideband channel messages Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-16 22:26     ` [PATCH v3 1/5] sideband: mask control characters Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-16 22:26     ` [PATCH v3 2/5] sideband: introduce an "escape hatch" to allow " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-16 22:26     ` [PATCH v3 3/5] sideband: do allow ANSI color sequences by default Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-16 22:26     ` [PATCH v3 4/5] sideband: add options to allow more control sequences to be passed through Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-16 22:26     ` [PATCH v3 5/5] sideband: offer to configure sanitizing on a per-URL basis Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-01-16 22:32     ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Sanitize sideband channel messages Johannes Schindelin
2026-02-03 10:17     ` [PATCH v4 0/6] " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-02-03 10:17       ` [PATCH v4 1/6] sideband: mask control characters Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-02-03 10:17       ` [PATCH v4 2/6] sideband: introduce an "escape hatch" to allow " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-02-03 10:17       ` [PATCH v4 3/6] sideband: do allow ANSI color sequences by default Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-02-03 10:18       ` [PATCH v4 4/6] sideband: add options to allow more control sequences to be passed through Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-02-03 10:18       ` [PATCH v4 5/6] sideband: offer to configure sanitizing on a per-URL basis Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-02-03 10:18       ` [PATCH v4 6/6] sideband: delay sanitizing by default to Git v3.0 Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2026-02-04 19:26       ` [PATCH v4 0/6] Sanitize sideband channel messages Junio C Hamano
2026-02-05 14:48         ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-13 23:50           ` Junio C Hamano
2026-03-02 18:11         ` [PATCH 0/3] Sanitizing sideband output Junio C Hamano
2026-03-02 18:11           ` [PATCH 1/3] sideband: drop 'default' configuration Junio C Hamano
2026-03-02 18:11           ` [PATCH 2/3] sideband: delay sanitizing by default to Git v3.0 Junio C Hamano
2026-03-02 18:11           ` [PATCH 3/3] sideband: conditional documentation fix Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 23:34       ` [PATCH v5 0/7] Sanitizing sideband output Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 23:34         ` [PATCH v5 1/7] sideband: mask control characters Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 23:34         ` [PATCH v5 2/7] sideband: introduce an "escape hatch" to allow " Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 23:34         ` [PATCH v5 3/7] sideband: do allow ANSI color sequences by default Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 23:34         ` [PATCH v5 4/7] sideband: add options to allow more control sequences to be passed through Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 23:34         ` [PATCH v5 5/7] sideband: offer to configure sanitizing on a per-URL basis Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 23:34         ` [PATCH v5 6/7] sideband: drop 'default' configuration Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 23:34         ` [PATCH v5 7/7] sideband: delay sanitizing by default to Git v3.0 Junio C Hamano

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