From: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Matt Smiley <msmiley@gitlab.com>,
"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] upload-pack: reduce lock contention when writing packfile data
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2026 10:31:46 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aaaqgrmOBj-Ly1Vx@pks.im> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260302182023.GG28275@coredump.intra.peff.net>
On Mon, Mar 02, 2026 at 01:20:23PM -0500, Jeff King wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 02, 2026 at 01:12:07PM +0100, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:
>
> > > Rather than buffering in upload-pack, would it not be simpler to just
> > > increase the write size from pack-objects? Then we do not have to worry
> > > about disrupting upload-pack's keepalive timeouts. And as a bonus, if
> > > you are worried about the system-wide number of calls, you will likewise
> > > be reducing the number of read() and write() calls over the pipe between
> > > pack-objects and upload-pack.
> >
> > We can do that. But we also have to keep in mind that downstream in the
> > pipe may be a process that's not even git-pack-objects(1) in the first
> > place because of "uploadpack.packObjectsHook". So maybe we should have a
> > look at doing both.
>
> True, though I think that whatever is producing gobs of output from that
> hook should consider using a buffer size close to a pktline. In many
> cases it will be pack-objects itself (just wrapped with some extra
> magic), but I guess you may have some kind of caching layer at GitLab
> (we did at GitHub).
>
> That is getting specialized enough that I don't feel too bad suggesting
> that authors of those tools should consider buffer sizes.
>
> As far as doing both, I'm not sure if it's worth it. My two concerns
> are:
>
> 1. It re-opens the question of whether upload-pack might stall waiting
> to fill its buffer and fail to produce keepalives correctly.
I've got a patch for that. The problem can even trigger right now as we
already do buffer some of the data, and that may cause the keepalives to
be missed. But this only happens initially in our current
infrastructure, before we see the "PACK" signature, so it's unlikely to
be a problem in practice.
> 2. I wonder if we could get some weird interactions between the two
> buffer sizes. E.g., if pack-objects sends 50k bytes at a time, but
> upload-pack wants to wait for 51k. So we read 50k then wait for the
> next chunk. Either:
>
> a. we read 50k again, pull off 13k of it to make a full pktline,
> and then memcpy around the other 37k to await more data.
> There's a bunch of extra copying as our buffer sizes don't
> line up.
>
> b. we read 13k (to fill up the pkt we're trying to send), send
> that, and then the next read gets a partial read(). So we end
> up issuing more reads, although sometimes pack-objects might
> catch up and fill the pipe buffer, and we'd get a full packet
> in one go. But depending on the timing, I wonder if things
> could get choppy and we'd end up issuing a bunch of extra
> reads (and possibly extra writes on the pack-objects side if
> it's waiting on us to create more space in the pipe).
We would likely hit this issue if we insist on the buffer being
completely filled before sending it out. But that's why I adapted the
logic to say that we send out once we've filled it at least 2/3rds of
the pktline limit. So in your case above we wouldn't face an issue as
we'd already send the first 50kB, as it is smaller than 2/3rds of the
maximum length (~42kB).
That being said, you'll still be able to construct cases where we have
weird edge cases. For example if you consistently send one byte less
than 2/3rds of the capacity.
Patrick
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-03 9:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-27 11:22 [PATCH 0/2] upload-pack: reduce lock contention when writing packfile data Patrick Steinhardt
2026-02-27 11:23 ` [PATCH 1/2] upload-pack: fix debug statement when flushing " Patrick Steinhardt
2026-02-27 11:23 ` [PATCH 2/2] upload-pack: reduce lock contention when writing " Patrick Steinhardt
2026-02-27 13:04 ` brian m. carlson
2026-02-27 18:14 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-02-27 17:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-02-27 19:37 ` Jeff King
2026-03-02 12:12 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-02 18:20 ` Jeff King
2026-03-03 9:31 ` Patrick Steinhardt [this message]
2026-03-03 13:35 ` Jeff King
2026-03-03 13:47 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-03 15:00 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] " Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-03 15:00 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] upload-pack: fix debug statement when flushing " Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-03 15:00 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] upload-pack: adapt keepalives based on buffering Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-05 0:56 ` Jeff King
2026-03-10 12:08 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-03 15:00 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] upload-pack: reduce lock contention when writing packfile data Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-05 1:16 ` Jeff King
2026-03-10 12:14 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-03 15:00 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] git-compat-util: introduce `cast_size_t_to_ssize_t()` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-03 15:00 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] compat/posix: introduce writev(3p) wrapper Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-04 22:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-03-05 0:37 ` Jeff King
2026-03-05 2:16 ` brian m. carlson
2026-03-05 6:39 ` Johannes Sixt
2026-03-05 22:22 ` brian m. carlson
2026-03-10 12:09 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-03 15:00 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] wrapper: introduce writev(3p) wrappers Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-03 15:00 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] sideband: use writev(3p) to send pktlines Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-04 22:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-03-03 15:00 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] csum-file: introduce `hashfd_ext()` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-04 22:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-03-10 12:09 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-03 15:00 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] csum-file: drop `hashfd_throughput()` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-03 15:00 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] builtin/pack-objects: reduce lock contention when writing packfile data Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 13:24 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] upload-pack: " Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 13:24 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] upload-pack: fix debug statement when flushing " Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 13:24 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] upload-pack: adapt keepalives based on buffering Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 13:24 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] upload-pack: prefer flushing data over sending keepalive Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 17:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-03-10 17:43 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] upload-pack: reduce lock contention when writing packfile data Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] compat/posix: introduce writev(3p) wrapper Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 16:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-03-10 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] wrapper: introduce writev(3p) wrappers Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] sideband: use writev(3p) to send pktlines Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] csum-file: introduce `hashfd_ext()` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] csum-file: drop `hashfd_throughput()` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] builtin/pack-objects: reduce lock contention when writing packfile data Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-10 17:11 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] upload-pack: " Junio C Hamano
2026-03-10 20:56 ` Johannes Sixt
2026-03-11 6:27 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-13 6:45 ` [PATCH v4 " Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-13 6:45 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] upload-pack: fix debug statement when flushing " Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-13 6:45 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] upload-pack: adapt keepalives based on buffering Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-13 6:45 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] upload-pack: prefer flushing data over sending keepalive Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-13 6:45 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] upload-pack: reduce lock contention when writing packfile data Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-13 6:45 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] compat/posix: introduce writev(3p) wrapper Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-13 6:45 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] wrapper: introduce writev(3p) wrappers Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-13 6:45 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] sideband: use writev(3p) to send pktlines Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-13 6:45 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] csum-file: introduce `hashfd_ext()` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-13 6:45 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] csum-file: drop `hashfd_throughput()` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-03-13 6:45 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] builtin/pack-objects: reduce lock contention when writing packfile data Patrick Steinhardt
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