From: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
To: phillip.wood@dunelm.org.uk
Cc: Matt Hunter <m@lfurio.us>,
Harald Nordgren <haraldnordgren@gmail.com>,
Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/4] history: add squash subcommand to fold a range
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2026 14:54:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <akZfm-igZKeHaDST@pks.im> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3c35bd17-e884-432d-a400-36a89964ed89@gmail.com>
On Tue, Jun 30, 2026 at 03:01:43PM +0100, Phillip Wood wrote:
> On 30/06/2026 03:55, Matt Hunter wrote:
[?nip]
> > This is probably a larger question, since (according to the man page) it
> > affects the other 'git history' commands as well. When I run
> > 'git history ...' and discover that I made a mistake after inspecting
> > the results, is there a fool-proof way to undo the change and return to
> > the previous state? My first thought was to run 'git reset --hard ...',
> > but the default behavior of --update-refs (moving other branches) can
> > make this more complicated.
>
> Yes this is a problem to which we don't have a good solution at the moment.
> I believe Jujitsu and git-branchless both have some kind of operations log
> that lets you revert a whole operation rather than just a single ref-update.
> We'd need some way to tie all the ref updates from a single ref transaction
> together either by logging the separately or adding some form of transaction
> id to the reflog. That would be a big change.
Yeah, agreed. I think that the reflog is insufficient for a lot of Git's
operations and that it is way too hard to reason about. It's both too
detailed and not detailed enough at the same time:
- It provides way too much detail about individual reference updates
when all the user cares about is the high-level operation on the
logical level.
- It does not provide enough detail to give information about what the
high-level operation even was.
I don't think that we can fix the reflog to work properly in this case.
But I certainly think that we should explore whether we can eventually
introduce something like an oplog, as well, so that we can easily have
the equivalent of `jj undo`.
It's something that I'd eventually want to get to, but it'll take a
while. So if anybody else beats me to it then please go ahead :)
Patrick
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-02 12:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-14 19:25 [PATCH 0/2] rebase: add --fixup to fold a range into its oldest commit Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-14 19:25 ` [PATCH 1/2] t3415: remove prepare-commit-msg hook after use Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-14 19:25 ` [PATCH 2/2] rebase: add --fixup-all to fold a range Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-15 2:01 ` [PATCH 0/2] rebase: add --fixup to fold a range into its oldest commit Junio C Hamano
2026-06-15 8:18 ` Harald Nordgren
2026-06-15 15:17 ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-06-16 8:34 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-06-17 9:30 ` Harald Nordgren
2026-06-15 8:37 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] rebase: add --squash to fold a range into its first commit Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-15 8:37 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] t3415: remove prepare-commit-msg hook after use Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-15 8:37 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] rebase: add --squash to fold a range Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-16 10:10 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] rebase: add --squash to fold a range into its first commit Phillip Wood
2026-06-17 9:11 ` Harald Nordgren
2026-06-17 9:48 ` Phillip Wood
2026-06-18 19:17 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] history: add squash subcommand to fold a range Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-18 19:17 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] history: extract helper for a commit's parent tree Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-18 19:17 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] history: give commit_tree_ext a message template Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-18 19:17 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] history: add squash subcommand to fold a range Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-18 20:30 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-06-18 21:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-06-18 21:29 ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-06-19 12:55 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-06-18 19:17 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] history: re-edit a squash with every message Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-18 21:23 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] history: add squash subcommand to fold a range D. Ben Knoble
2026-06-19 0:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-06-19 12:37 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-06-19 16:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-06-21 5:53 ` [PATCH v4 " Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-21 5:53 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] history: extract helper for a commit's parent tree Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-21 5:53 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] history: give commit_tree_ext a message template Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-21 5:53 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] history: add squash subcommand to fold a range Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-21 5:53 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] history: re-edit a squash with every message Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-22 11:54 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] history: add squash subcommand to fold a range Patrick Steinhardt
2026-06-23 10:41 ` Harald Nordgren
2026-06-24 21:54 ` [PATCH v5 " Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-24 21:54 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] history: extract helper for a commit's parent tree Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-24 21:55 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] history: give commit_tree_ext a message template Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-24 21:55 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] history: add squash subcommand to fold a range Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-24 21:55 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] history: re-edit a squash with every message Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-26 8:52 ` [PATCH v5 0/4] history: add squash subcommand to fold a range Phillip Wood
2026-06-26 9:57 ` Harald Nordgren
2026-06-26 13:12 ` Phillip Wood
2026-06-26 14:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-06-26 18:36 ` Harald Nordgren
2026-06-29 6:26 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-06-29 15:51 ` Phillip Wood
2026-06-29 16:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-07-01 13:45 ` Phillip Wood
2026-06-29 18:03 ` Harald Nordgren
2026-06-29 19:48 ` Phillip Wood
2026-06-29 21:13 ` Harald Nordgren
2026-06-30 13:48 ` Phillip Wood
2026-06-30 18:38 ` Harald Nordgren
2026-07-01 10:31 ` Phillip Wood
2026-07-01 13:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-07-01 15:14 ` Phillip Wood
2026-07-01 17:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-07-02 13:58 ` Phillip Wood
2026-06-30 2:55 ` Matt Hunter
2026-06-30 7:19 ` Harald Nordgren
2026-06-30 9:23 ` Matt Hunter
2026-06-30 14:01 ` Phillip Wood
2026-07-02 12:54 ` Patrick Steinhardt [this message]
2026-07-02 20:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-06-29 16:09 ` Harald Nordgren
2026-06-28 8:29 ` [PATCH v6 " Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-28 8:29 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] history: extract helper for a commit's parent tree Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-28 8:29 ` [PATCH v6 2/4] history: give commit_tree_ext a message template Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-28 8:29 ` [PATCH v6 3/4] history: add squash subcommand to fold a range Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-29 5:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-06-28 8:29 ` [PATCH v6 4/4] history: re-edit a squash with every message Harald Nordgren via GitGitGadget
2026-06-29 5:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-06-29 13:49 ` Harald Nordgren
2026-06-29 14:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-06-29 17:38 ` Junio C Hamano
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