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From: Mirko Faina <mroik@delayed.space>
To: Chandra Pratap <chandrapratap3519@gmail.com>
Cc: Pablo Sabater <pabloosabaterr@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org,  ayu.chandekar@gmail.com,
	christian.couder@gmail.com, gitster@pobox.com,
	 jltobler@gmail.com, karthik.188@gmail.com, krka@spotify.com,
	peff@peff.net,  phillip.wood@dunelm.org.uk,
	siddharthasthana31@gmail.com, Mirko Faina <mroik@delayed.space>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 0/4] graph: indent visual roots in graph
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2026 15:10:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alOOXKGIB8BqACxR@exploit> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+J6zkQcHu-LVKE-1ypfT=59gEzo4qBzi-pmhSJNC_udCDCJZg@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 12, 2026 at 11:26:27AM +0530, Chandra Pratap wrote:
> Tying graph-drawing logic to specific formatting flags could introduce
> inconsistencies. For example, if a user relies on a custom format like
> --format="%h %s", the output is functionally single-line and suffers
> from the exact same ambiguity, but it would miss the fix.
> 
> Even in multi-line formats, relying on the absence of a '|' character to spot
> unrelated commits requires active effort. Indentation provides an immediate
> visual cue that breaks the vertical lineage, which is helpful regardless of the
> commit message length.
> 
> I agree with Pablo: for users who strictly want the old behavior, an opt-out
> flag keeps the graph logic decoupled from the formatting logic.

In that case, together with --[no]-graph-indent, a configuration
variable like "graph.indent" could be introduced to reduce the usage of
--[no]-graph-indent for those that would like to retain the old
behaviour for most formats.

> > > Apart from having an option to disable indentation.
> > >
> > > We could have the cascading to have a limit or make it zig-zag:
> > >
> > > instead of:
> > >
> > > A
> > >   B
> > >     C
> > >       D
> > >
> > > We could do:
> > >
> > > A
> > >   B
> > > C
> > >   D
> > >
> > > This would have its own edge cases like:
> > >
> > > A
> > >   B
> > > C <- if we zig-zag here C and D become ambiguous, currently we are
> > > D    indenting only the last commits (visual roots) here we would have
> > > D    to chose between continuing cascading or indenting the first of D.
> > >
> > > I'm not so sure if I like the zig-zag solution because we need to think again
> > > if it causes an ambiguity, but I wanted to mention it.
> > >
> > > I think we need some more opinions about the design.
> >
> > I don't dislike the the current solution but I can see it degenerating
> > if someone contributes a lot of one-patch series.
> >
> > Maybe you could indent commits that are both head and tail up to two
> > levels and then on the third go back to the beginning of the line. That
> > way you kind of have a zig-zag but without ambiguity. You'd only have to
> > add a counter to keep track of the level of indentation.
> 
> Not sure about this. A zig-zag pattern visually mimics branching and
> merging, which makes unrelated commits look like a complex merge topology.
> 
> I also have a feeling that this will end up recreating the exact ambiguity this
> patch series is trying to fix.

While a zig-zag pattern might be ambiguous, what I proposed is a little
different.

What I proposed is effectively a wrapping for anything that goes beyond
two levels of indentation. I don't think it would look anything like a
fork/merge pattern.

* A
  * B
    * C
* D
  * E
    * F

The difference between two indentation levels and no indentation is very
noticeble, I don't think anyone confused this. This would fix the
staircase pattern on adjacent one-patch series.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-12 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-02 21:17 [GSoC RFC PATCH 0/1] graph: add indentation for commits preceded by a root Pablo Sabater
2026-04-02 21:17 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH 1/1] " Pablo Sabater
2026-04-03 17:55   ` Junio C Hamano
2026-04-03 18:07     ` Pablo
2026-04-03  5:04 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH 0/1] " Junio C Hamano
2026-04-03  8:25   ` Pablo
2026-04-04  9:24 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v2 0/1] graph: add indentation for commits preceded by a parentless commit Pablo Sabater
2026-04-04  9:24   ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v2 1/1] " Pablo Sabater
2026-04-10 16:25   ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v2 0/1] " Pablo
2026-04-10 16:54     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-04-27 10:28   ` [GSoC PATCH v3 " Pablo Sabater
2026-04-27 10:28     ` [GSoC PATCH v3 1/1] " Pablo Sabater
2026-05-13 23:02       ` Jeff King
2026-05-14 10:19         ` Pablo Sabater
2026-04-27 10:35     ` [GSoC PATCH v3 0/1] " Pablo
2026-06-12 13:48     ` [PATCH v4 0/2] graph: indent visual roots in graph Pablo Sabater
2026-06-12 13:48       ` [PATCH v4 1/2] lib-log-graph: move check_graph function Pablo Sabater
2026-06-12 13:48       ` [PATCH v4 2/2] graph: indent visual root in graph Pablo Sabater
2026-06-13  3:01       ` [PATCH v4 0/2] graph: indent visual roots " Junio C Hamano
2026-06-13 19:09       ` [PATCH v5 " Pablo Sabater
2026-06-13 19:09         ` [PATCH v5 1/2] lib-log-graph: move check_graph function Pablo Sabater
2026-06-13 19:09         ` [PATCH v5 2/2] graph: indent visual root in graph Pablo Sabater
2026-06-14  4:05           ` Junio C Hamano
2026-06-14  5:28             ` Pablo Sabater
2026-06-15 15:42               ` Junio C Hamano
2026-06-16 13:06                 ` Pablo Sabater
2026-06-16 16:36                   ` Junio C Hamano
2026-06-17 20:27           ` Jeff King
2026-06-18 12:42             ` Pablo Sabater
2026-06-18 13:31               ` Junio C Hamano
2026-06-18 16:05               ` Jeff King
2026-06-18 16:07                 ` Jeff King
2026-06-19  7:34                 ` Kristofer Karlsson
2026-06-21 18:05                   ` Jeff King
2026-06-22  8:29                     ` Kristofer Karlsson
2026-06-17 10:33         ` [PATCH v5 0/2] graph: indent visual roots " Chandra Pratap
2026-06-20 10:11         ` [PATCH v6 0/3] " Pablo Sabater
2026-06-20 10:11           ` [PATCH v6 1/3] lib-log-graph: move check_graph function Pablo Sabater
2026-06-20 10:11           ` [PATCH v6 2/3] revision: add peek functions for lookahead Pablo Sabater
2026-06-20 10:18             ` Pablo Sabater
2026-06-20 14:56             ` Junio C Hamano
2026-06-20 15:15               ` Junio C Hamano
2026-06-21  1:48             ` Junio C Hamano
2026-06-21  6:42             ` Chandra Pratap
2026-06-22  8:28             ` Kristofer Karlsson
2026-06-29 21:56               ` Junio C Hamano
2026-06-29 23:29                 ` Pablo Sabater
2026-06-20 10:11           ` [PATCH v6 3/3] graph: indent visual root in graph Pablo Sabater
2026-07-04  8:52           ` [PATCH v7 0/3] graph: indent visual roots " Pablo Sabater
2026-07-04  8:52             ` [PATCH v7 1/3] lib-log-graph: move check_graph function Pablo Sabater
2026-07-04  8:52             ` [PATCH v7 2/3] graph: add a 2 commit buffer for lookahead Pablo Sabater
2026-07-06  9:49               ` Chandra Pratap
2026-07-06 13:44                 ` Kristofer Karlsson
2026-07-06 15:33                   ` Chandra Pratap
2026-07-07  6:31                     ` Pablo Sabater
2026-07-07 18:12                       ` Pablo Sabater
2026-07-04  8:52             ` [PATCH v7 3/3] graph: indent visual root in graph Pablo Sabater
2026-07-10 10:37             ` [PATCH v8 0/4] graph: indent visual roots " Pablo Sabater
2026-07-10 10:37               ` [PATCH v8 1/4] lib-log-graph: move check_graph function Pablo Sabater
2026-07-10 10:37               ` [PATCH v8 2/4] revision: add next_commit_to_show() Pablo Sabater
2026-07-10 10:37               ` [PATCH v8 3/4] graph: add a 2 commit buffer for lookahead Pablo Sabater
2026-07-10 10:37               ` [PATCH v8 4/4] graph: indent visual root in graph Pablo Sabater
2026-07-10 18:07                 ` Mirko Faina
2026-07-10 20:29                   ` Pablo Sabater
2026-07-11 13:37               ` [PATCH v9 0/4] graph: indent visual roots " Pablo Sabater
2026-07-11 13:37                 ` [PATCH v9 1/4] lib-log-graph: move check_graph function Pablo Sabater
2026-07-11 13:37                 ` [PATCH v9 2/4] revision: add next_commit_to_show() Pablo Sabater
2026-07-11 13:37                 ` [PATCH v9 3/4] graph: add a 2 commit buffer for lookahead Pablo Sabater
2026-07-11 13:37                 ` [PATCH v9 4/4] graph: indent visual root in graph Pablo Sabater
2026-07-11 14:15                 ` [PATCH v9 0/4] graph: indent visual roots " Mirko Faina
2026-07-11 15:41                   ` Pablo Sabater
2026-07-11 16:25                     ` Mirko Faina
2026-07-12  5:56                       ` Chandra Pratap
2026-07-12 13:10                         ` Mirko Faina [this message]
2026-07-12 13:12                           ` Mirko Faina
2026-07-12 16:59                           ` Pablo Sabater
2026-07-12 19:33                             ` Mirko Faina
2026-07-13  7:41                             ` Chandra Pratap
2026-07-13 10:44                 ` [PATCH v10 0/7] " Pablo Sabater
2026-07-13 10:44                   ` [PATCH v10 1/7] lib-log-graph: move check_graph function Pablo Sabater
2026-07-13 10:44                   ` [PATCH v10 2/7] revision: add next_commit_to_show() Pablo Sabater
2026-07-13 10:44                   ` [PATCH v10 3/7] graph: add a 2 commit buffer for lookahead Pablo Sabater
2026-07-13 10:44                   ` [PATCH v10 4/7] graph: indent visual root in graph Pablo Sabater
2026-07-13 10:44                   ` [PATCH v10 5/7] graph: wrap cascading commits after 4 columns Pablo Sabater
2026-07-13 10:44                   ` [PATCH v10 6/7] graph: move config reading into graph_read_config() Pablo Sabater
2026-07-13 10:44                   ` [PATCH v10 7/7] graph: add --[no-]graph-indent and log.graphIndent Pablo Sabater
2026-07-13 14:06                     ` Mirko Faina
2026-07-13 16:16                       ` Pablo Sabater
2026-07-13 16:43                   ` [PATCH v11 0/7] graph: indent visual roots in graph Pablo Sabater
2026-07-13 16:43                     ` [PATCH v11 1/7] lib-log-graph: move check_graph function Pablo Sabater
2026-07-13 16:43                     ` [PATCH v11 2/7] revision: add next_commit_to_show() Pablo Sabater
2026-07-13 16:44                     ` [PATCH v11 3/7] graph: add a 2 commit buffer for lookahead Pablo Sabater
2026-07-13 16:44                     ` [PATCH v11 4/7] graph: indent visual root in graph Pablo Sabater
2026-07-13 16:44                     ` [PATCH v11 5/7] graph: wrap cascading commits after 4 columns Pablo Sabater
2026-07-13 16:44                     ` [PATCH v11 6/7] graph: move config reading into graph_read_config() Pablo Sabater
2026-07-13 16:44                     ` [PATCH v11 7/7] graph: add --[no-]graph-indent and log.graphIndent Pablo Sabater
2026-07-14 10:19                       ` Chandra Pratap
2026-07-14 11:47                         ` Pablo Sabater
2026-07-13 20:28                     ` [PATCH v11 0/7] graph: indent visual roots in graph Junio C Hamano
2026-07-13 20:51                       ` Pablo Sabater
2026-07-14 12:09                     ` [PATCH v12 " Pablo Sabater
2026-07-14 12:09                       ` [PATCH v12 1/7] lib-log-graph: move check_graph function Pablo Sabater
2026-07-14 12:09                       ` [PATCH v12 2/7] revision: add next_commit_to_show() Pablo Sabater
2026-07-14 12:09                       ` [PATCH v12 3/7] graph: add a 2 commit buffer for lookahead Pablo Sabater
2026-07-14 12:09                       ` [PATCH v12 4/7] graph: indent visual root in graph Pablo Sabater
2026-07-14 12:09                       ` [PATCH v12 5/7] graph: wrap cascading commits after 4 columns Pablo Sabater
2026-07-14 12:09                       ` [PATCH v12 6/7] graph: move config reading into graph_read_config() Pablo Sabater
2026-07-14 12:09                       ` [PATCH v12 7/7] graph: add --[no-]graph-indent and log.graphIndent Pablo Sabater
2026-05-14 15:15 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH 0/1] graph: add indentation for commits preceded by a root Phillip Wood
2026-05-14 17:45   ` Pablo Sabater
2026-05-15  9:33     ` Phillip Wood
2026-05-17  6:31       ` Chandra Pratap
2026-05-18 13:26         ` Pablo Sabater
2026-05-19  0:03           ` Junio C Hamano
2026-05-19  5:59             ` Pablo Sabater
2026-06-10 15:21               ` Junio C Hamano
2026-06-10 15:28                 ` Pablo Sabater
2026-05-19 10:39           ` Chandra Pratap

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