Git development
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Pierre Habouzit <madcoder@debian.org>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Re: Convert 'git blame' to parse_options()
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:04:48 +0100 (BST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0806231756340.6440@racer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0806230912230.2926@woody.linux-foundation.org>

Hi,

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> > 
> > Thinking about the recursive approach again, I came up with this POC:
> 
> "recursive" is pointless.

Nope, it is not.

To keep things _simple_ a callback is not good.  Sure, you can work around 
the limitations of callbacks for aggregation, but the code change looks 
horrible.  And the same holds true for the help message.

Just compare that to the recursive approach.

Okay, now for the "granted, your approach has merits" part.

> Look at cmd_apply() in builtin-apply.c. Notice how it currently 
> absolutely CANNOT sanely be turned into using "parse_options()", not 
> because it needs any "recursive" handling, but simply because it wants 
> to do *incremental* handling.

That is a totally independent issue from the one I discussed, namely sane 
handling of the diff (and rev) options.

> 	for (;;) {
> 		const char *arg;
> 		argc = parse_options(argc, argv,
> 			options, usage, PARSE_OPT_STOP_AT_UNKNOWN);

We do have PARSE_OPT_STOP_AT_NON_OPTION since a0ec9d25(parseopt: add flag 
to stop on first non option), which tries to solve a _similar_ problem, 
and it should be not hard at all to get PARSE_OPT_STOP_AT_UNKNOWN without 
changing the loop as you suggested.

Heck, we could just as easily introduce PARSE_OPT_IGNORE_UNKNOWN.

> Could you handle the "recursive" use of parse_options() in builtin-blame.c 
> by teaching it about recursion? Yes. But again, it's just _simpler_ to 
> just teach parse_options() to parse the things it knows about, and leave 
> the other things in place.

And here I disagree.  You might not need a nice "--help" output, but most 
mortals do.  And this is not easy with your approach.

In contrast, by using my approach of having an option_table for a bundle 
of common options, which just set variables in a certain struct, you can 
have a relatively painless migration, and you get all the benefits of 
parse-options.

But I guess the approach of whoever has more time to work on it will 
win... ;-)

Ciao,
Dscho

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-23 17:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-23  5:15 Convert 'git blame' to parse_options() Linus Torvalds
2008-06-23  6:35 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-23 12:28   ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-23  8:22 ` [RFC] " Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-23 12:26   ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-23 15:53     ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-23 16:25       ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-23 16:25     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-23 16:49       ` Jeff King
2008-06-23 17:06         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-23 17:15           ` Jeff King
2008-06-23 17:32             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-23 18:15               ` Jeff King
2008-06-23 18:36                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-23 18:20               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-23 18:33                 ` Jeff King
2008-06-23 18:47                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-23 19:16                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-23 21:09                       ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-23 21:11                         ` [PATCH] parse-opt: have parse_options_{start,end} Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-23 21:11                           ` [PATCH] parse-opt: Export a non NORETURN usage dumper Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-23 21:11                             ` [PATCH] parse-opt: create parse_options_step Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-23 21:11                               ` [PATCH] parse-opt: do not pring errors on unknown options, return -2 intead Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-23 21:11                                 ` [PATCH] parse-opt: fake short strings for callers to believe in Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-23 22:08                                 ` [PATCH] parse-opt: do not pring errors on unknown options, return -2 intead Junio C Hamano
2008-06-23 22:13                                   ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-23 21:23                         ` [RFC] Re: Convert 'git blame' to parse_options() Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-23 21:23                         ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-23 21:28                           ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-23 21:26                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-23 21:41                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-23 21:47                           ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-23 22:11                           ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-23 22:24                             ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-23 22:36                               ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-23 22:38                               ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-23 23:31                                 ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-23 23:40                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-23 23:51                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-24  7:50                                     ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-24  1:27                                   ` Jeff King
2008-06-23 19:53                     ` Jeff King
2008-06-23 20:04                       ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-23 20:12                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-24  5:35                         ` Jeff King
2008-06-24 16:59                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-24 17:13                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-24 17:34                             ` Jeff King
2008-06-24 17:44                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-24 19:46                                 ` Jeff King
2008-06-24  0:30                 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-24  8:24                   ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-24 17:05                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-24 19:30                       ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-24 19:43                         ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-25  6:09                         ` Johannes Sixt
2008-06-23 17:04       ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2008-06-23 17:21         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-23 18:39           ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-23 17:26         ` Jeff King
2008-06-23 18:41           ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-23 19:24       ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-23 16:11   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-24  9:12 ` Making parse-opt incremental, reworked series Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-24  9:12   ` [PATCH 1/7] parse-opt: have parse_options_{start,end} Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-24  9:12     ` [PATCH 2/7] parse-opt: Export a non NORETURN usage dumper Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-24  9:12       ` [PATCH 3/7] parse-opt: create parse_options_step Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-24  9:12         ` [PATCH 4/7] parse-opt: do not pring errors on unknown options, return -2 intead Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-24  9:12           ` [PATCH 5/7] parse-opt: fake short strings for callers to believe in Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-24  9:12             ` [PATCH 6/7] parse-opt: add PARSE_OPT_KEEP_ARGV0 parser option Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-24  9:12               ` [PATCH 7/7] Migrate git-blame to parse-option partially Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-24 10:03               ` [PATCH 6/7] parse-opt: add PARSE_OPT_KEEP_ARGV0 parser option Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-24 17:18               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-24 19:27                 ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-24 20:55                 ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-24 17:20             ` [PATCH 5/7] parse-opt: fake short strings for callers to believe in Linus Torvalds
2008-06-24 19:26               ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-25 15:07                 ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-06-24 20:58             ` [REPLACEMENT PATCH] " Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-26  8:35               ` Pierre Habouzit
2008-06-26  8:40                 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-26  9:37                   ` Pierre Habouzit

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=alpine.DEB.1.00.0806231756340.6440@racer \
    --to=johannes.schindelin@gmx.de \
    --cc=git@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=gitster@pobox.com \
    --cc=madcoder@debian.org \
    --cc=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox