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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Stephan Beyer <s-beyer@gmx.net>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Daniel Barkalow <barkalow@iabervon.org>,
	Christian Couder <chriscool@tuxfamily.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH 1/4] Add git-sequencer shell prototype
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 03:03:37 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0807040252490.2849@eeepc-johanness> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080704003857.GG6677@leksak.fem-net>

Hi,

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008, Stephan Beyer wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 01:53:21AM +0200, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> > On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Stephan Beyer wrote:
> > > Btw, another root commit problem is btw that it's not possible to 
> > > cherry-pick root commits.
> > 
> > That is a problem to be fixed in cherry-pick, not in sequencer.  Care 
> > to take care of that?
> 
> Not at the moment but that's one of the things I note down for later ;-)

Well, logically, it should come _before_ you use it in sequencer.  And you 
should use it in sequencer.

> And btw, somehow it is still open for me if builtin sequencer should be 
> a git-cherry-pick user (for pick) or if git-cherry-pick should be a 
> sequencer user (which would result in a change of usage on cherry-pick 
> conflicts).

The thing is, sequencer and cherry-pick _both_ use the same underlying 
functionality: cherry-picking a single commit.

So, logically, that part should be moved into libgit.a, and cherry-pick 
should use the to-be-introduced sequencer() function.

> > > Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> > > > > > +# Usage: pick_one (cherry-pick|revert) [-*|--edit] sha1
> > > > > > +pick_one () {
> > > > > > +	what="$1"
> > > > > > +	# we just assume that this is either cherry-pick or revert
> > > > > > +	shift
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	# check for fast-forward if no options are given
> > > > > > +	if expr "x$1" : 'x[^-]' >/dev/null
> > > > > > +	then
> > > > > > +		test "$(git rev-parse --verify "$1^")" = \
> > > > > > +			"$(git rev-parse --verify HEAD)" &&
> > > > > > +			output git reset --hard "$1" &&
> > > > > > +			return
> > > > > > +	fi
> > > > > > +	test "$1" != '--edit' -a "$what" = 'revert' &&
> > > > > > +		what='revert --no-edit'
> > > > > 
> > > > > This looks somewhat wrong.
> > > > > 
> > > > > When the history looks like ---A---B and we are at A, 
> > > > > cherry-picking B can be optimized to just advancing to B, but 
> > > > > that optimization has a slight difference (or two) in the 
> > > > > semantics.
> > > > > 
> > > > >  (1) The committer information would not record the user and 
> > > > >      time of the sequencer operation, which actually may be a 
> > > > >      good thing.
> > > > 
> > > > This is debatable.  But I think you are correct, for all the same 
> > > > reasons why a merge can result in a fast-forward.
> > > 
> > > Dscho, you mean me by referring to 'you' here, right?
> > 
> > Nope.
> > 
> > > Otherwise I'm a bit confused: "For the same reasons why a merge can 
> > > result in a fast-forward we should not do fast forward here" ;-)
> > 
> > What I meant: there is no use here to redo it.  It has already be 
> > done, and redoing just pretends that the girl calling sequencer tried 
> > to pretend that she did it.
> > 
> > If the merge has been done already, it should not be redone.
> > 
> > Only if the user _explicitely_ specified a merge strategy, there _might_ 
> > be a reason to redo the merge, but I still doubt it.
> 
> I don't get the light bulb.  You're talking about "the merge", I am
> talking about fast-forward on picks.

Ooops.  I think I was talking about a later comment of Junio's.

The thing is, if you try to pick a commit, and the current revision is 
already the parent of that commit, I think it would be wrong to redo the 
commit, pretending that the current time and committer were applying that 
commit.

> I try a simple example just to go sure that we're talking about the 
> same.
> 
> We have commits
> 
>   A ---- B ---- C ---- D
>        HEAD
> 
> A is parent of B, B of C, C of D.
> 
> Now we do:
> 	pick C
> 	pick --signoff D
> (Assume that the Signed-off-by: line is missing on D)
> 
> Without fast-forward, we get
> 
>   A ---- B ---- C ---- D
>           \
>            `--- C'---- D'
>                      HEAD
> 
> C' differs in C only in the committer data, perhaps only committer date.
> 
> With fast-forward, we get:
> 
>   A ---- B ---- C ---- D
>                  \
>                   `--- D'
>                      HEAD

IMO the --signoff should check if the sign off is present (must be the 
last one, as if we redid that commit), and if it is, fast-forward.

If it is missing, we need to redo the commit.

> > > Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> > > > I'd not check in sequencer for the strategy.  Especially given 
> > > > that we want to support user-written strategies in the future.
> > > 
> > > I don't know how this is planned to look like, but perhaps 
> > > --list-strategies may make sense here, too.
> > 
> > No.  You just do not check for strategies.  Period.  git-merge does 
> > that, and you can easily abort a rebase if you explicitely asked for 
> > an invalid strategy.
> 
> Hmm, my dream of the "robust sequencing after sanity check passed" is
> dead with your "period".
>
> So I'll have to check what happens, when e.g. "--strategy=hours" is 
> used.

Wow.  Is that the CVS/SVN merge strategy?

Do not care too much about the rare use cases.  Only experts will use -s.

But experts are known to shoot themselves, or inflict other pain on their 
bodies, so it is okay to let them suffer from a typo.

Ciao,
Dscho

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-04  1:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-01  2:38 git sequencer prototype Stephan Beyer
2008-07-01  2:38 ` [RFC/PATCH 1/4] Add git-sequencer shell prototype Stephan Beyer
2008-07-01  2:38   ` [RFC/PATCH 2/4] Add git-sequencer prototype documentation Stephan Beyer
2008-07-01  2:38     ` [RFC/PATCH 3/4] Add git-sequencer test suite (t3350) Stephan Beyer
2008-07-01  2:38       ` [RFC/PATCH 4/4] Migrate git-am to use git-sequencer Stephan Beyer
2008-07-01  2:39         ` git-rebase-i migration to sequencer Stephan Beyer
2008-07-01  2:39           ` [PATCH 1/2] Make rebase--interactive use OPTIONS_SPEC Stephan Beyer
2008-07-01  2:39             ` [RFC/PATCH 2/2] Migrate git-rebase--i to use git-sequencer Stephan Beyer
2008-07-05 17:31       ` [RFC/PATCH 3/4] Add git-sequencer test suite (t3350) Stephan Beyer
2008-07-05 18:16         ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-01 13:02     ` [RFC/PATCH 2/4] Add git-sequencer prototype documentation Jakub Narebski
2008-07-01 16:03       ` Stephan Beyer
2008-07-01 18:04         ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-01 19:50           ` Stephan Beyer
2008-07-02  0:39             ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-02  1:20               ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-02  3:01               ` Stephan Beyer
2008-07-05 17:00     ` [PATCH v2 " Stephan Beyer
2008-07-08 10:37       ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-08 11:49         ` Stephan Beyer
2008-07-09  5:20         ` Karl Hasselström
2008-07-03  1:45   ` [RFC/PATCH 1/4] Add git-sequencer shell prototype Junio C Hamano
2008-07-03 11:03     ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-03 22:51       ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-03 21:09     ` Stephan Beyer
2008-07-03 22:11       ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-03 22:34         ` Stephan Beyer
2008-07-03 23:33         ` Stephan Beyer
2008-07-03 23:53       ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-04  0:38         ` Stephan Beyer
2008-07-04  1:03           ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2008-07-04  1:53             ` Stephan Beyer
2008-07-04 15:19               ` [PATCH] Allow cherry-picking root commits Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-04 16:41                 ` Stephan Beyer
2008-07-06  1:05                 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-06  1:37                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-06 11:32                     ` t3503: Add test case for identical files Stephan Beyer
2008-07-06 11:35                 ` [PATCH] Allow cherry-picking root commits Stephan Beyer
2008-07-06 12:48                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-04  1:06         ` [RFC/PATCH 1/4] Add git-sequencer shell prototype Stephan Beyer
2008-07-04  1:11           ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-07-03 13:10   ` Jakub Narebski
2008-07-03 21:12     ` Stephan Beyer
2008-07-05 16:58   ` [PATCH v2 " Stephan Beyer
2008-07-01  8:51 ` git sequencer prototype Junio C Hamano
2008-07-01 14:53   ` Stephan Beyer
2008-07-04 21:00 ` Alex Riesen
2008-07-04 22:09   ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-04 22:23     ` Stephan Beyer
2008-07-05  8:13     ` Alex Riesen
2008-07-05 10:12       ` Thomas Adam
2008-07-05 10:13       ` Johannes Schindelin

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