From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Johannes Schindelin Subject: Re: [RFC variant 2 of 2] "needs update" considered harmful Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:41:25 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: References: <7vtzelf4mf.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> <7v7ibhdmii.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> <20080720112957.GE32184@machine.or.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Junio C Hamano , git@vger.kernel.org To: Petr Baudis X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sun Jul 20 14:41:42 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KKYEK-0002KG-NH for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:41:37 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756684AbYGTMkh (ORCPT ); Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:40:37 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756849AbYGTMkh (ORCPT ); Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:40:37 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:49263 "HELO mail.gmx.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1754926AbYGTMkg (ORCPT ); Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:40:36 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 20 Jul 2008 12:40:34 -0000 Received: from 88-107-142-10.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (EHLO eeepc-johanness.st-andrews.ac.uk) [88.107.142.10] by mail.gmx.net (mp045) with SMTP; 20 Jul 2008 14:40:34 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1490710 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/pro4jiSjpzrB4h9UDzhDa/IkxPQO4HvzF6tb6eJ K51UCy1M18L4Gj X-X-Sender: user@eeepc-johanness In-Reply-To: <20080720112957.GE32184@machine.or.cz> User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (DEB 882 2007-12-20) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.67 Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Hi, On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Petr Baudis wrote: > Scripts need to be modified for the reorganization anyway, No. They do not, if the 1st variant is applied. > and I'm not sure if there are any actually depening on this particular > string. That is the question, isn't it? You would never know. Many people, strange as it sounds, do not write to this list when they encounter problems with Git. They vent on their blogs, not giving us a chance, and other people comment "Me too"s. One of the most important features of Git used to be its scriptability, and I think that many hackers just love Git for it, even new hackers. So it is probably not unheard of that someone wrote an update hook or a cronjob using the output of "update-index --refresh". But those people are probably not on this list, or not following every thread, or they even forgot how/that they implemented such a hook/cronjob. Ergo: we would not know if scripts break. Until it is too late. Ciao, Dscho