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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>
Cc: David Turner <dturner@twopensource.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 18/19] index-helper: autorun
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 15:43:34 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1603171536420.4690@virtualbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACsJy8AsJKmsPm8Y1LRZdmyH60n3OT5X=42RGK5GXNBDfn8j8g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Duy,

On Thu, 17 Mar 2016, Duy Nguyen wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 1:27 AM, Johannes Schindelin
> <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> > I am much more concerned about concurrent accesses and the communication
> > between the Git processes and the index-helper. Writing to the .pid file
> > sounds very fragile to me, in particular when multiple processes can poke
> > the index-helper in succession and some readers are unaware that the index
> > is being refreshed.
> 
> It's not that bad.

Well, the way I read the code it is possible that:

1. Git process 1 starts, reading the index
2. Git process 2 starts, poking the index-helper
3. The index-helper updates the .pid file (why not set a bit in the shared
   memory?) with a prefix "W"
4. Git process 2 reads the .pid file and waits for the "W" to go away
   (what if index-helper is not fast enough to write the "W"?)
5. Git process 1 access the index, happily oblivious that it is being
   updated and the data is in an inconsistent state

> We should have protection in place to deal with this and fall back to
> reading directly from file when things get suspicious.

I really want to prevent that. I know of use cases where the index weighs
300MB, and falling back to reading it directly *really* hurts.

> But I agree that sending UNIX signals (or PostMessage) is not really
> good communication.

Yeah, I really would like two-way communication instead. Named pipes?
They'd have the advantage that you could use the full path to the index as
identifier.

The way I read the current code, we would actually create a different
shared memory every time the index changes because its checksum is part of
the shared memory's "path"...

Ciao,
Dscho

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-17 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-09 18:36 [PATCH 00/19] index-helper, watchman David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 01/19] trace.c: add GIT_TRACE_PACK_STATS for pack usage statistics David Turner
2016-03-09 22:58   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-03-10  0:05     ` David Turner
2016-03-10 10:59       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 02/19] read-cache.c: fix constness of verify_hdr() David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 03/19] read-cache: allow to keep mmap'd memory after reading David Turner
2016-03-09 23:02   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-03-10  0:09     ` David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 04/19] index-helper: new daemon for caching index and related stuff David Turner
2016-03-09 23:09   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-03-09 23:21     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-03-10  0:01       ` David Turner
2016-03-10 11:17       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-10 20:22         ` David Turner
2016-03-11  1:11           ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-10  0:18     ` David Turner
2016-03-15 11:56     ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-15 15:56       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-03-15 11:52   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 05/19] trace.c: add GIT_TRACE_INDEX_STATS for index statistics David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 06/19] index-helper: add --strict David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 07/19] daemonize(): set a flag before exiting the main process David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 08/19] index-helper: add --detach David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 09/19] index-helper: add Windows support David Turner
2016-03-16 11:42   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-17 12:18     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-17 12:59       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 10/19] read-cache: add watchman 'WAMA' extension David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 11/19] Add watchman support to reduce index refresh cost David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 12/19] read-cache: allow index-helper to prepare shm before git reads it David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 13/19] index-helper: use watchman to avoid refreshing index with lstat() David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 14/19] update-index: enable/disable watchman support David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 15/19] unpack-trees: preserve index extensions David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 16/19] index-helper: rewrite pidfile after daemonizing David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 17/19] index-helper: process management David Turner
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 18/19] index-helper: autorun David Turner
2016-03-15 12:12   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-15 14:26     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-16 11:37       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-16 18:11       ` David Turner
2016-03-16 18:27         ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-17 13:02           ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-17 14:43             ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2016-03-17 18:31               ` David Turner
2016-03-18  0:50               ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-18  7:14                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-18  7:44                   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-18 17:22                     ` David Turner
2016-03-18 23:09                       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-18  7:17                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-18  7:34                   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-18 15:57                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-03-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 19/19] hack: watchman/untracked cache mashup David Turner
2016-03-15 12:31   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-17  0:56     ` David Turner
2016-03-17 13:06       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-03-17 18:08         ` David Turner
2016-03-29 17:09 ` [PATCH 00/19] index-helper, watchman Torsten Bögershausen
2016-03-29 21:51   ` David Turner

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