From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.5 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,RP_MATCHES_RCVD shortcircuit=no autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3574620710 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2016 13:07:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754772AbcIINHB (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Sep 2016 09:07:01 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:50415 "EHLO mout.gmx.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751987AbcIINHA (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Sep 2016 09:07:00 -0400 Received: from virtualbox ([37.24.141.250]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MELdk-1bou1L0Fvk-00FPHv; Fri, 09 Sep 2016 15:06:51 +0200 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 15:06:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Johannes Schindelin X-X-Sender: virtualbox@virtualbox To: =?UTF-8?Q?Jakub_Nar=C4=99bski?= cc: Duy Nguyen , Jeff King , Stefan Beller , meta@public-inbox.org, "git@vger.kernel.org" , Eric Wong Subject: Re: Announcing Git User's Survey 2016 [was: Working with public-inbox.org] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20160819150340.725bejnps6474u2e@sigill.intra.peff.net> <5e480a5b-3752-55c0-65ed-52ca5802851f@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; BOUNDARY="8323329-1550818555-1473426411=:129229" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:Qyi/vF8cKrv04Ek+mr2gq7JTsM3Z9RCxFUPYsdUqFiTM6U2dNyR jatBHQLi9dgdcdpywLD70ZWlT1VGHCAGJ/kiaJWnkbtTdJhrNMBpjhYKINKgC3ieZUtL5Pm IZj82ZWq1vd+QnVQidG/kFq5RyxFQRLfi2noG+8KWerl0zZNE/4Eweims63UhR8W1Rq0NSc M2aN/DkJ6Z8dr+TPToyZg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:polaAVu1VBg=:2iCt6MgFzbj7pD8pi5emwg YxACRpU3W7uNAqGKqwUI8E26vkoR0IA/uu9txU4R/vtSmPz+f6Kuner9fj+BUpYTrh5lq0hdz Ma5JBf2awl3ozh9Uwzpted1SozQkNogKdmjFImB/hGCaLnQDuR8JFVhjErk1a7OF8lJVHMPr3 3ouLyjtZ+xb/pixjyNUkn1Z9ebzVqlBE7nu01YepY3USRzEzxoidN9XKkJFlGYi+OTHfcHAzD 3J9tftMdeYgvIRESsDnQtEQxKCRnzSqGf9JWYpEu76MwPeWvG2aZZuLUbcJ17W4a6O3+upRBf Wvhb6wTFxbGsf1m7bAnWuRdmEIhndGE8Y2Afh69N3Di0wncgwvAEYoKRNp9zzueDdxsgMUhpZ AlNu2WL3izrRKNsJKVlAgpk+7cAcZRW3ivT5di08NnVY5s0aL+XL0lcFy5NGRGv4ax9zX4udF Wkj10ndhK+Sfq5GrjcE3WKEXmrdaPBpSadDAoHvoX/ZBZSkZJ/6FH3ssKsUCm6IDtiBcA6Xe3 0nOx0somFkhvN4JcbJNhokxWWdrcNELIQlxMI7FQbja2xYX9XAHuCJULyBrz6tKekGTfbWqGn 31zrGGJXFPt7q238PvR4+prEGIVeQ2IGIz9+W9VAzoi8Ezgg2keQszx/X3ToQGQg09erwfwPF mq+lndqtOeGNC/rVuqBrYx4yhFYs0VZt5nq3OW+a2sij6ZWbB/R1JqVanCjcK6/4ieyixkyjz cCmpF9MxtxcvboMCEqGeAmrQkWMrU5aZ3880z6kwn0Bh8TCutm504vh5epLN0ZftNdlGM9KOf UJKBcto Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323329-1550818555-1473426411=:129229 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hi Kuba, On Sun, 28 Aug 2016, Jakub Nar=C4=99bski wrote: > W dniu 28.08.2016 o 10:38, Johannes Schindelin pisze: > > > I would like to strongly caution against putting too much stock into > > this users' survey. It is the best we have, granted. Yet I have not > > heard from anybody that they participated in the survey, unless they > > were also subscribed to the Git mailing list. >=20 > I tried in past and will try for this year Git User's Survey to be > announced more widely than just Git mailing list (git@vger.kernel.org). I did not mean to criticise you. I think you are doing the best you can, and it is valuable. My point is: many professional developers use Git not necessarily because they want to, but because their day job requires them to do so. I *highly* doubt that we reach a notable fraction of those developers, even if they are arguably power users of any development tool, including Git. The question is not so much how to advertise the survey. I skip almost all surveys I am asked to participate in, because I am just a little bit busy all the time. I feel that my colleagues do the same. Unless forced to take a survey, they skip it. Ciao, Dscho --8323329-1550818555-1473426411=:129229--