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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Can I have this, pretty please?
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 11:38:53 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0708121135050.30176@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85ir7kq42k.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>



On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, David Kastrup wrote:
>
> And then it struck me: Emacs has a very efficient browser for linked
> one-line information that can be expanded into complete changesets
> with diffs inside.  It is called "Gnus".  A newsreader.

A newsreader is mis-designed for all the same reasons SVN is misdesigned: 
it sees the messages (commits) as a _tree_.

Anybody who sees development as a tree is totally bogus by definition. It 
sees things forking off, but it doesn't see them merging. That's a 
fundamnetal and unfixable design bug.

Of course, for news, that's ok (it might be *nice* if you could reply to 
two messages and see it as a merge, but that's not how things work), so 
it wasn't a design mistake for _that_.

But to visualize a history, it's useless. Merges are as important as forks 
(arguably *more* important). "Forgetting" about merges is bad.

			Linus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-12 18:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-12 13:23 Can I have this, pretty please? David Kastrup
2007-08-12 14:21 ` Steven Grimm
2007-08-12 16:40   ` David Kastrup
2007-08-12 18:38 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-08-12 18:48   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-12 19:28     ` Jon Smirl
2007-08-12 19:45       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-12 19:48       ` David Kastrup
2007-08-12 19:29     ` David Kastrup
2007-08-12 19:51       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2007-08-12 20:04         ` David Kastrup
2007-08-12 20:21           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-12 19:53       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-12 20:10         ` David Kastrup
2007-08-13  0:22         ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-13  5:49           ` David Kastrup
2007-08-12 19:10   ` David Kastrup
2007-08-12 19:24     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-12 19:46       ` David Kastrup
2007-08-12 19:59         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-12 20:30           ` David Kastrup
2007-08-12 20:58           ` Govind Salinas
2007-08-12 21:35             ` David Kastrup
2007-08-12 22:17               ` Martin Langhoff
2007-08-12 22:54                 ` David Kastrup
2007-08-12 20:02     ` Jeff King
2007-08-12 20:09       ` Jeff King
2007-08-12 21:51       ` David Kastrup
2007-08-12 23:10         ` Jeff King

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