From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <8fe92b430710081355i7d3dbaa2q9a8939b55d7ca7dc@mail.gmail.com> <8fe92b430710121508g13917080mac156250abfccf20@mail.gmail.com> <853awepyz6.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <20071013202713.GA2467@fieldses.org> <20071014014445.GN27899@spearce.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=us-ascii Cc: "Shawn O. Pearce" , Johannes Schindelin , "J. Bruce Fields" , Jakub Narebski , git@vger.kernel.org To: david@lang.hm X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sun Oct 14 05:55:59 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Igua3-0007o2-UK for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 05:55:56 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754796AbXJNDzl (ORCPT ); Sat, 13 Oct 2007 23:55:41 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754782AbXJNDzl (ORCPT ); Sat, 13 Oct 2007 23:55:41 -0400 Received: from smtp2.linux-foundation.org ([207.189.120.14]:46908 "EHLO smtp2.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754550AbXJNDzk (ORCPT ); Sat, 13 Oct 2007 23:55:40 -0400 Received: from imap1.linux-foundation.org (imap1.linux-foundation.org [207.189.120.55]) by smtp2.linux-foundation.org (8.13.5.20060308/8.13.5/Debian-3ubuntu1.1) with ESMTP id l9E3tCcQ027188 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:55:14 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imap1.linux-foundation.org (8.13.5.20060308/8.13.5/Debian-3ubuntu1.1) with ESMTP id l9E3tCdR000861; Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:55:12 -0700 In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.718 required=5 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0-osdl_revision__1.47__ X-MIMEDefang-Filter: lf$Revision: 1.188 $ X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.53 on 207.189.120.14 Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Sat, 13 Oct 2007, david@lang.hm wrote: > > I'll also point out that being a 'productive member of society' may have a > wider definition then you may think initially. I actually meant it in the absolutely most narrow possible meaning: you take the least productive person imaginable, who is certainly not going to do anything at all, and in the end, who cares? It's not like nonproductive people really hurt. Some people in the open source / free software world get really upset about "freeloaders". I think that's silly. First off, I agree with you that a lot of people don't even end up being freeloaders - even if you never code a single line of code, there are ton of ways to be usefully involved (and some of them will be entirely invisible to any developer - helping random people outside the development lists, for example). But more importantly, even somebody who really isn't productive at all generally can't be messing things up either - so it's a nonissue. Unless it results in tons of flaming ... Linus