From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:44:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: References: <8fe92b430710081355i7d3dbaa2q9a8939b55d7ca7dc@mail.gmail.com> <8fe92b430710121508g13917080mac156250abfccf20@mail.gmail.com> <853awepyz6.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <20071013202713.GA2467@fieldses.org> <20071014014445.GN27899@spearce.org> <3f4fd2640710140320h5c1e1f7gf9f43a626aaa6897@mail.gmail.com> <47125BF7.2070503@midwinter.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Cc: Reece Dunn , "Shawn O. Pearce" , Linus Torvalds , Johannes Schindelin , "J. Bruce Fields" , Jakub Narebski , git@vger.kernel.org To: Steven Grimm X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sun Oct 14 21:45:04 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ih9OT-0007HI-8u for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:44:57 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755066AbXJNTor (ORCPT ); Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:44:47 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754286AbXJNTor (ORCPT ); Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:44:47 -0400 Received: from relais.videotron.ca ([24.201.245.36]:22885 "EHLO relais.videotron.ca" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754006AbXJNToq (ORCPT ); Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:44:46 -0400 Received: from xanadu.home ([74.56.106.175]) by VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-0.15 (built Feb 9 2007)) with ESMTP id <0JPX00M942V0YYB0@VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca> for git@vger.kernel.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:45:01 -0400 (EDT) X-X-Sender: nico@xanadu.home In-reply-to: <47125BF7.2070503@midwinter.com> Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, Steven Grimm wrote: > Verbosity. IMO Mercurial swings too far in this direction, but in general it's > either completely silent or very terse in its output. There is never, as far > as I can see, any low-level diagnostic information spit out to the user unless > an hg command is run with a "verbose" option. Here's "hg pull; hg update", for > example (and "pull" is one of hg's chattier commands): > > pulling from ../child1 > searching for changes > adding changesets > adding manifests > adding file changes > added 8 changesets with 8 changes to 3 files (+1 heads) > (run 'hg heads' to see heads, 'hg merge' to merge) > 3 files updated, 0 files merged, 0 files removed, 0 files unresolved > > Compare with the equivalent "git pull" and put yourself in the shoes of a user > who is running that command for the first time: BTW I have patches here reworking the progress code for a more compact display which should mitigate this issue quite a bit. Nicolas