From: Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy <pclouds@gmail.com>, Jan Hudec <bulb@ucw.cz>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Move all dashed form git commands to libexecdir
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:55:16 -0500 (EST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.99999.0711292142550.9605@xanadu.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.9999.0711291821220.8458@woody.linux-foundation.org>
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Yes. I meant that we might as well keep all the git-xyz forms around, but
> _only_ in the libexec directory (and make sure that the libexec directory
> by default is *not* a binary directory), so that they'd normally not be
> visible.
>
> So then, people who want to use the old-fashioned git-xyz forms, because
> they just really hate white-space or whatever, could choose to do one of
> two things:
> - either just change the default libexec directory to be the same as the
> binary install directory, and have all the git-xyz things in the same
> place they've always been.
> - or just add $(gitlibexec) into their path.
>
> but the default (which is what 99% of all people use) would be to not
> show them. I also think that it makes sense to avoid wasting diskspace
> with duplicate files, so in situations where you don't have hardlinks,
> just don't install the git-xyz files at all by default (and again, maybe
> we can have a option to the installer to do it for people who really are
> very attached to the git-xyz format, and prefer to waste even a lot of
> disk on it)
>
> So I just think that the whole idiotic complaint that some people have
> (that whole "git-<tab><tab>" shows "Display all 144 possibilities?" and
> people are somehow using that as an argument that git is "complex") should
> be something we strive to undo. I think the complaint is insane (because
> the answer is "well, nobody forces you to _use_ all the power and scripts
> we give you!"), but still, it's a complaint, so let's just assume the user
> is right, and try to fix it.
Absolutely!
And despite Junio's appearance of some cowardliness on this issue :-)
I think we should have this right now instead of later. Like Junio said
himself, this was planned for a while already, and poorly maintained
external scripts are already failing due to other reasons anyway.
Nicolas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-30 2:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-27 15:02 [PATCH RFC] Move all dashed form git commands to libexecdir Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2007-11-27 15:12 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-27 15:25 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-27 16:04 ` [PATCH] " Nguyễn Thái Ngoc Duy
2007-11-27 16:18 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-28 0:07 ` Jan Hudec
2007-11-28 1:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-28 8:18 ` Jan Hudec
2007-11-28 8:36 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2007-11-28 23:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-28 23:40 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-28 23:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-29 0:01 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-29 0:59 ` A Large Angry SCM
2007-11-29 1:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-29 3:17 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2007-11-29 14:09 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-29 22:36 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-30 7:32 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2007-11-30 11:28 ` Eyvind Bernhardsen
2007-11-30 12:08 ` [PATCH] transport.c: call dash-less form of receive-pack and upload-pack on remote Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-01 2:36 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-01 10:17 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-01 19:30 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-01 23:03 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-01 23:15 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-02 1:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-02 2:52 ` [PATCH 0/3] Call builtin functions directly, was " Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-02 2:54 ` [PATCH 1/3] Introduce release_all_objects() Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-02 2:54 ` [PATCH 2/3] Include the objects needed for the builtin functions into libgit.a Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-02 2:55 ` [PATCH 3/3] Introduce execv_git_builtin() and use it Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-02 3:04 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-02 3:16 ` [REPLACEMENT PATCH " Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-02 5:19 ` [PATCH 0/3] Call builtin functions directly, was Re: [PATCH] transport.c: call dash-less form of receive-pack and upload-pack on remote Junio C Hamano
2007-12-02 11:35 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-30 12:19 ` [PATCH] Move all dashed form git commands to libexecdir Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2007-11-30 13:35 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-29 15:08 ` Jeff King
2007-11-29 20:05 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2007-11-29 21:14 ` Jeff King
2007-11-29 22:19 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-29 23:14 ` Jeff King
2007-11-29 23:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-30 0:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-30 0:35 ` Jeff King
2007-11-30 0:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-30 0:58 ` Jeff King
2007-11-30 1:13 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-30 1:17 ` Jeff King
2007-11-30 5:42 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-11-30 7:18 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-11-30 15:09 ` Jeff King
2007-11-30 20:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-30 21:25 ` Jeff King
2007-11-30 23:10 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-02 15:02 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2007-12-02 16:39 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-02 16:56 ` Pascal Obry
2007-12-02 17:23 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-01 2:37 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-01 4:17 ` Jeff King
2007-11-30 2:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-30 2:55 ` Nicolas Pitre [this message]
2007-11-30 5:51 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-11-30 15:12 ` Jeff King
2007-11-30 15:28 ` Santi Béjar
2007-11-30 15:29 ` Jeff King
2007-11-30 15:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-30 16:22 ` Jeff King
2007-11-30 18:28 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-30 18:37 ` Jeff King
2007-11-30 23:05 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-30 23:21 ` Jeff King
2007-11-30 23:38 ` Johannes Schindelin
[not found] ` <fcaeb9bf0711302234l32460a1fqbf9825fc8055f99d@mail.gmail.com>
2007-12-01 19:32 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-01 21:26 ` Jeff King
2007-12-02 5:50 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2007-11-30 0:52 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-30 1:00 ` Jeff King
2007-11-30 1:19 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-30 1:25 ` Jeff King
2007-11-30 1:33 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-30 1:53 ` Jeff King
2007-11-30 2:23 ` A Large Angry SCM
2007-11-30 0:40 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2007-11-30 0:51 ` A Large Angry SCM
2007-11-30 0:54 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-30 2:03 ` A Large Angry SCM
2007-11-30 1:01 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-30 2:17 ` A Large Angry SCM
2007-11-30 2:27 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-29 0:14 ` Jakub Narebski
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