From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: OSX, ZFS, UTF8, git - somebody hates me in this list Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 10:53:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <86wsm9dbhk.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <20080504215208.GG29038@spearce.org> <86skwxd97d.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <8663tsbqg0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "Shawn O. Pearce" , git@vger.kernel.org To: "Randal L. Schwartz" X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Mon May 05 19:55:40 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jt4uG-0004S1-FK for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 19:55:20 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756350AbYEERyI (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 May 2008 13:54:08 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756330AbYEERyH (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 May 2008 13:54:07 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:50468 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756275AbYEERyG (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 May 2008 13:54:06 -0400 Received: from imap1.linux-foundation.org (imap1.linux-foundation.org [140.211.169.55]) by smtp1.linux-foundation.org (8.14.2/8.13.5/Debian-3ubuntu1.1) with ESMTP id m45Hrvvw008202 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 5 May 2008 10:53:58 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imap1.linux-foundation.org (8.13.5.20060308/8.13.5/Debian-3ubuntu1.1) with ESMTP id m45HrunF028787; Mon, 5 May 2008 10:53:56 -0700 In-Reply-To: <8663tsbqg0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (LFD 962 2008-03-14) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.423 required=5 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4-osdl_revision__1.47__ X-MIMEDefang-Filter: lf$Revision: 1.188 $ X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 140.211.169.13 Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Mon, 5 May 2008, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > Also, ZFS is case-sensitive, which leads me to believe that out of > the box, it's more like UFS. > > Still don't know why ZFS breaks but UFS works. UFS is a traditional Unix filesystem, and will not mangle your filenames. ZFS apparently acts like a case-sensitive HFS+: it still tries to normalize to UTF-8 (and does it badly, at that - picking an Apple-specific almost-NFD form of normalization rather than the more sensible NFC form). So ZFS may not corrupt cases, but it still corrupts UTF-8 filenames. Linus