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From: Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Denis Bueno <dbueno@gmail.com>, Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Recovering from repository corruption
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:43:58 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0806102026430.23110@xanadu.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0806101518590.3101@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> Anyway, I'll think about sane ways to add a "safe" mode without making it 
> _too_ painful. In the meantime, here's a trial patch that you should 
> probably use. It does slow things down, but hopefully not too much.
> 
> (I really don't much like it - but I think this is a good change, and I 
> just need to come up with a better way to do the fsync() than to be 
> totally synchronous about it.)
> 
> It's going to make big "git add" calls *much* slower, so I'm not very 
> happy about it (especially since we don't actually care that deeply about 
> the files really being there until much later, so doing something 
> asynchronous would be perfectly acceptable), but for you this is 
> definitely worth-while.

I don't like it at all.

I think this only gives a false sense of security with a huge 
performance cost.  If the machine crashes at the right moment, the 
object will still be half written/fsync'd and you'll be in the same 
situation again.

And because we don't overwrite existing objects (again for performance 
reasons), then a corrupted blob object will remain corrupted even if you 
reattempt the commit later.  So doing the fsync only when the commit 
object is written isn't a good solution either.

I wonder if supporting crashy systems is worth that cost.  If Denis' 
laptop is the odd case then a sync in the commit hook might be plenty 
sufficient.  Personally I'd simply replace the OS or the machine for 
something more reliable.


Nicolas

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-11  0:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-10 17:26 Recovering from repository corruption Denis Bueno
2008-06-10 17:55 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-10 19:38   ` Denis Bueno
2008-06-10 19:59     ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-10 20:03       ` Denis Bueno
2008-06-10 20:14         ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-10 20:35           ` Denis Bueno
2008-06-10 20:23         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-10 20:28           ` Denis Bueno
2008-06-10 21:09             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-10 21:22               ` Denis Bueno
2008-06-10 21:48                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-10 22:09                   ` Denis Bueno
2008-06-10 22:25                     ` Tarmigan
2008-06-10 22:41                       ` Denis Bueno
2008-06-10 22:45                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-10 23:00                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-11  0:43                       ` Nicolas Pitre [this message]
2008-06-11  1:39                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-11  1:47                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-06-10 21:27               ` Denis Bueno
2008-06-10 22:52               ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-11 23:21               ` To graft or not to graft... (Re: Recovering from repository corruption) Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-06-11 23:34                 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-11 23:39                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-12  7:14                   ` Johan Herland
2008-06-12  7:47                     ` Jeff King
2008-06-12 10:21                       ` Johan Herland
2008-06-12 12:20                         ` Stephen R. van den Berg
2008-06-10 19:40 ` Recovering from repository corruption Nicolas Pitre
2008-06-10 19:42   ` Denis Bueno

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