From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Martin Langhoff <martin.langhoff@gmail.com>,
Tim Harper <timcharper@gmail.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Bizarre missing changes (git bug?)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:48:11 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0807291738280.3334@nehalem.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0807291716060.3334@nehalem.linux-foundation.org>
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> - But the other huge mistake you make is EVEN MORE STUPID, because it's
> so ironic. That magical output you want, and claim is so perfect, and
> point out "thus you can still apply as much simplification as you want
> on top of it"? You know what? It already _exists_! It's exactly that
> --full-history case.
Put in other terms: what you ask for can be fairly trivially done as a
filter on the _current_ git output (preferably merged into the tool that
shows it graphically in the first place), with absolutely no downside.
In contrast, if somebody was really so _stupid_ as to go with your output
format, then yes, he could further simplify it down to the current default
format, but with a huge performance/interactivity downside.
See? Your preferred format is not actually the "best" format. Not at all.
Quite the reverse. Your preferred format is much better off being a
secondary post-processing format exactly because it can be generated from
one of the primary formats easily enough.
But the reverse isn't true: the current primary formats cannot be
generated from your preferred format without losing something important
(performance).
But I'll make you a deal: if you actually write the filter in C form, I
can pretty much guarantee that we can easily add it as a new flag. It
really should be pretty easy to integrate it into the revision parsing
machinery alongside --topo-order, since it's really the same kind of
operation.
In fact, it's possible that the current --topo-order sorting could
possibly be made to just do the simplification (conditionally, of course,
since it has the latency problem). See the function
void sort_in_topological_order(struct commit_list ** list, int lifo)
in commit.c - that's where it would hook in.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-30 0:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-21 20:26 Bizarre missing changes (git bug?) Tim Harper
2008-07-21 20:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-21 22:53 ` Tim Harper
2008-07-21 22:55 ` Tim Harper
[not found] ` <8C23FB54-A28E-4294-ABEA-A5766200768B@gmail.com>
2008-07-21 22:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-26 3:12 ` Roman Zippel
2008-07-26 19:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-27 17:50 ` Roman Zippel
2008-07-27 18:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-27 23:14 ` Roman Zippel
2008-07-27 23:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-28 0:00 ` Roman Zippel
2008-07-28 5:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-28 5:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-29 2:59 ` Roman Zippel
2008-07-29 3:15 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-07-30 0:16 ` Roman Zippel
2008-07-30 0:25 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-07-30 0:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-30 0:48 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2008-07-30 23:56 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-31 0:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-31 0:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-31 8:17 ` [PATCH v2] revision traversal: show full history with merge simplification Junio C Hamano
2008-07-31 8:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-31 22:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-31 22:09 ` [PATCH v3-wip] " Junio C Hamano
2008-07-31 22:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-31 22:36 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-01 3:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-01 3:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-01 7:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-30 8:36 ` Bizarre missing changes (git bug?) Jakub Narebski
2008-07-29 3:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-29 3:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-29 11:39 ` Roman Zippel
2008-07-29 12:00 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-29 15:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-30 1:14 ` Roman Zippel
2008-07-30 1:32 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-07-30 1:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-29 5:31 ` Jeff King
2008-07-29 12:32 ` Roman Zippel
2008-07-29 12:48 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-07-29 12:52 ` Jeff King
2008-07-29 17:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-30 1:50 ` Roman Zippel
2008-07-30 2:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-30 4:26 ` Jeff King
2008-07-30 4:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-30 2:48 ` Roman Zippel
2008-07-30 3:20 ` Kevin Ballard
2008-07-30 3:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-30 3:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-30 4:23 ` Jeff King
2008-07-27 23:25 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-07-28 1:29 ` Roman Zippel
2008-07-21 20:42 ` Alex Riesen
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