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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Martin Langhoff <martin.langhoff@gmail.com>,
	Tim Harper <timcharper@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Bizarre missing changes (git bug?)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:48:11 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0807291738280.3334@nehalem.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0807291716060.3334@nehalem.linux-foundation.org>



On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
>  - But the other huge mistake you make is EVEN MORE STUPID, because it's 
>    so ironic. That magical output you want, and claim is so perfect, and 
>    point out "thus you can still apply as much simplification as you want 
>    on top of it"? You know what? It already _exists_! It's exactly that 
>    --full-history case.

Put in other terms: what you ask for can be fairly trivially done as a 
filter on the _current_ git output (preferably merged into the tool that 
shows it graphically in the first place), with absolutely no downside.

In contrast, if somebody was really so _stupid_ as to go with your output 
format, then yes, he could further simplify it down to the current default 
format, but with a huge performance/interactivity downside.

See? Your preferred format is not actually the "best" format. Not at all. 
Quite the reverse. Your preferred format is much better off being a 
secondary post-processing format exactly because it can be generated from 
one of the primary formats easily enough.

But the reverse isn't true: the current primary formats cannot be 
generated from your preferred format without losing something important 
(performance).

But I'll make you a deal: if you actually write the filter in C form, I 
can pretty much guarantee that we can easily add it as a new flag. It 
really should be pretty easy to integrate it into the revision parsing 
machinery alongside --topo-order, since it's really the same kind of 
operation.

In fact, it's possible that the current --topo-order sorting could 
possibly be made to just do the simplification (conditionally, of course, 
since it has the latency problem). See the function

	void sort_in_topological_order(struct commit_list ** list, int lifo)

in commit.c - that's where it would hook in.

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-30  0:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-21 20:26 Bizarre missing changes (git bug?) Tim Harper
2008-07-21 20:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-21 22:53   ` Tim Harper
2008-07-21 22:55     ` Tim Harper
     [not found]   ` <8C23FB54-A28E-4294-ABEA-A5766200768B@gmail.com>
2008-07-21 22:57     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-26  3:12   ` Roman Zippel
2008-07-26 19:58     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-27 17:50       ` Roman Zippel
2008-07-27 18:47         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-27 23:14           ` Roman Zippel
2008-07-27 23:18             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-28  0:00               ` Roman Zippel
2008-07-28  5:00                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-28  5:30                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-29  2:59                   ` Roman Zippel
2008-07-29  3:15                     ` Martin Langhoff
2008-07-30  0:16                       ` Roman Zippel
2008-07-30  0:25                         ` Martin Langhoff
2008-07-30  0:32                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-30  0:48                           ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2008-07-30 23:56                             ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-31  0:15                               ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-31  0:30                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-31  8:17                               ` [PATCH v2] revision traversal: show full history with merge simplification Junio C Hamano
2008-07-31  8:18                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-31 22:30                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-31 22:09                                 ` [PATCH v3-wip] " Junio C Hamano
2008-07-31 22:26                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-31 22:36                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-01  3:00                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-01  3:48                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-01  7:50                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-30  8:36                         ` Bizarre missing changes (git bug?) Jakub Narebski
2008-07-29  3:29                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-29  3:33                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-29 11:39                       ` Roman Zippel
2008-07-29 12:00                         ` David Kastrup
2008-07-29 15:50                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-30  1:14                           ` Roman Zippel
2008-07-30  1:32                             ` Kevin Ballard
2008-07-30  1:49                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-29  5:31                     ` Jeff King
2008-07-29 12:32                       ` Roman Zippel
2008-07-29 12:48                         ` Olivier Galibert
2008-07-29 12:52                         ` Jeff King
2008-07-29 17:25                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-30  1:50                             ` Roman Zippel
2008-07-30  2:05                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-30  4:26                             ` Jeff King
2008-07-30  4:52                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-30  2:48                           ` Roman Zippel
2008-07-30  3:20                             ` Kevin Ballard
2008-07-30  3:21                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-30  3:35                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-30  4:23                             ` Jeff King
2008-07-27 23:25             ` Martin Langhoff
2008-07-28  1:29               ` Roman Zippel
2008-07-21 20:42 ` Alex Riesen

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