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From: Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>
To: Geert Bosch <bosch@adacore.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Ken Pratt <ken@kenpratt.net>,
	"Shawn O. Pearce" <spearce@spearce.org>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: pack operation is thrashing my server
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:35:24 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808131024460.4352@xanadu.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1EE44425-6910-4C37-9242-54D0078FC377@adacore.com>

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Geert Bosch wrote:

> I've always felt that keeping largish objects (say anything >1MB)
> loose makes perfect sense. These objects are accessed infrequently,
> often binary or otherwise poor candidates for the delta algorithm.

Or, as I suggested in the past, they can be grouped into a separate 
pack, or even occupy a pack of their own.  As soon as you have more than 
one revision of such largish objects then you lose again by keeping them 
loose.

> Many repositories are mostly well-behaved with large number of text
> files that aren't overly large and compress/diff well. However, often
> a few huge files creep in. These might be a 30 MB Word or PDF documents
> (with lots of images of course), a bunch of artwork, some random .tgz files
> with required tools or otherwise.
> 
> Regardless of their origin, the presence of such files in real-world SCMs
> is a given and can ruin performance, even if they're hardly ever accessed
> or updated. If we would leave such oddball objects loose, the pack would
> be much smaller, easier to generate, faster to use and there should be no
> memory usage issues.

You'll have memory usage issues whenever such objects are accessed, 
loose or not.  However, once those big objects are packed once, they can 
be repacked (or streamed over the net) without really "accessing" them.  
Packed object data is simply copied into a new pack in that case which 
is less of an issue on memory usage, irrespective of the original pack 
size.


Nicolas

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-08-13 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-10 19:47 pack operation is thrashing my server Ken Pratt
2008-08-10 23:06 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-08-10 23:12   ` Ken Pratt
2008-08-10 23:30     ` Martin Langhoff
2008-08-10 23:34       ` Ken Pratt
2008-08-11  3:04 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-11  7:43   ` Ken Pratt
2008-08-11 15:01     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-11 15:40       ` Avery Pennarun
2008-08-11 15:59         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-11 19:13       ` Ken Pratt
2008-08-11 19:10     ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-11 19:15       ` Ken Pratt
2008-08-13  2:38         ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-13  2:50           ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-13  2:57             ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-11 19:22       ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-11 19:29         ` Ken Pratt
2008-08-11 19:34           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-11 20:10             ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-13  3:12       ` Geert Bosch
2008-08-13  3:15         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-13  3:58           ` Geert Bosch
2008-08-13 14:37             ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-13 14:56               ` Jakub Narebski
2008-08-13 15:04                 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-13 15:26                   ` David Tweed
2008-08-13 23:54                     ` Martin Langhoff
2008-08-14  9:04                       ` David Tweed
2008-08-13 16:10                   ` Johan Herland
2008-08-13 17:38                     ` Ken Pratt
2008-08-13 17:57                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-13 14:35         ` Nicolas Pitre [this message]
2008-08-13 14:59           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-13 15:43             ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-13 15:50               ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-13 17:04                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-13 17:19                   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-14  6:33                   ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-08-14 10:04                     ` Thomas Rast
2008-08-14 10:15                       ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-08-14 22:33                         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-15  1:46                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-14 14:01                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-14 17:21                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-14 17:58                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-14 19:04                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-14 19:44                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-14 21:30                           ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-15 16:15                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-14 21:50                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-14 23:14                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-14 23:39                               ` Björn Steinbrink
2008-08-15  0:06                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-15  0:25                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-16 12:47                                   ` Björn Steinbrink
2008-08-16  0:34                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-07  1:03                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-07  1:46                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-07  2:33                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-07 17:11                                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-07 17:41                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2008-09-07  2:50                                     ` Jon Smirl
2008-09-07  3:07                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-07  3:43                                         ` Jon Smirl
2008-09-07  4:50                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-07 13:58                                             ` Jon Smirl
2008-09-07 17:08                                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-07 20:33                                                 ` Jon Smirl
2008-09-08 14:17                                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-09-08 15:12                                                     ` Jon Smirl
2008-09-08 16:01                                                       ` Jon Smirl
2008-09-07  8:18                                         ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-09-07  7:45                                     ` Mike Hommey
2008-08-14 18:38                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-14 18:55                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-13 16:01           ` Geert Bosch
2008-08-13 17:13             ` Dana How
2008-08-13 17:26             ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-13 12:43 ` Jakub Narebski

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