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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Francis Moreau <francis.moro@gmail.com>
Cc: "René Scharfe" <rene.scharfe@lsrfire.ath.cx>,
	"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Why doesn't git-apply remove empty file
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:57:09 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808141246190.3324@nehalem.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <38b2ab8a0808141242k4bd6867dt8ef54f160713061f@mail.gmail.com>



On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, Francis Moreau wrote:
> 
> Well patch(1) is so used out there that makes git-apply often do the
> wrong thing for such corner cases when applying a patch made by
> patch(1).
> 
> Maybe git-apply would be more friendly regarding patch(1) if it has an
> option to emulate GNU patch for some situations. Or if this means
> adding too many quirks in git-apply code, maybe give the possibity for
> git-am to use patch(1) instead of git-apply.

The thing is, "patch" is a total piece of utterly unbelievable SH*T.

git-apply acts differently, yes, but it acts differently for a damn good 
reason. No, you cannot replace git-apply with that horrible crap that is 
GNU patch.

Some of the reasons are purely trivial implementation issues:

 - git-apply knows about the index, and knows about updating it properly, 
   including tracking new files automatically.

That's an important thing, but yeah, it's an implementation issue.

The other things that git-apply do right are much more fundamental:

 - git apply doesn't leave half-applied state turds around when a patch 
   fails.

   People who actually use "patch" for large projects will know the pain 
   here: if a diff fails in the middle, GNU patch will have applied the 
   previous parts (including to other files), and it's now your problem to 
   fix it up. There's no way to do an all-or-nothing patch, which is often 
   a huge requirement.

 - git apply doesn't guess (unless you really tell it to, and even then it 
   will guess a whole lot less than GNU patch). If a "git apply" succeeds, 
   it was probably good. If a GNU patch invocation succeeds, it might have 
   been total and utter crap, but hey, it tried to apply that piece of 
   shit very aggressively even when it made no sense and the context 
   didn't actually match even _remotely_.

   Yeah, context diffs can still mis-apply even with git apply, but they 
   do so a hell of a lot less than with GNU patch, and if you want it to 
   just generate a random end result, you at least have to _ask_ for it.

So no. There's no way in hell that git am should use GNU patch.

But as mentioned, if somebody wants to parse the dates, we could do that. 

			Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-14 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-12 16:17 Why doesn't git-apply remove empty file Francis Moreau
2008-08-13  0:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-13  7:48   ` Francis Moreau
2008-08-13 21:52     ` René Scharfe
2008-08-13 23:09       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-14 19:42         ` Francis Moreau
2008-08-14 19:57           ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2008-08-14 20:02             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-14 20:21               ` Stephan Beyer
2008-08-14 20:54                 ` Jeff King
2008-08-14 21:10                   ` Stephan Beyer
2008-08-15  4:08                     ` Jeff King
2008-08-15 15:53                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-14 20:17             ` Francis Moreau

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