From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>
Cc: "David Woodhouse" <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
"Kristian Høgsberg" <krh@redhat.com>,
"Johannes Schindelin" <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
users@kernel.org, "Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>,
"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for builtins
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:19:28 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808261114070.3363@nehalem.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080826180926.GA25711@isilmar.linta.de>
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Dominik Brodowski wrote:
>
> But _why_ do they complain? Just whining or real reasons?
Well, considering that I think the people who complain about the 1.6.0
behaviour are whining, what does it matter?
People always think their own concerns are so incredibly important.
I always thought that git-xyzzy was fine. After all, I _did_ it that way
to begin with. But people complained, and the whole alias thing meant that
it couldn't be the primary interface _anyway_, so I changed my opinion.
I don't actually personally feel all that strongly, but I _do_ think that
right now the git-xyzzy proponents are whining. All of their arguments are
pure and utter CRAP, considering the triviality of
PATH="$PATH:$(git --exec-path)"
Really. I repeat that mantra over and over, exactly because it makes all
the whining so _pointless_.
Why do people still whine about this? Really? None of the whiners have
answered that simple PATH mantra, BECAUSE THEY CANNOT.
So when you ask "why do they complain", look at both sides. Both sides
complain about totally stupid things.
but the FACT is that git-1.6.0 can work either way. So the people who
complain about having lost git-xyzzy are the ones that are being stupid.
At least the ones who complained about "git-<tab><tab>" being scary had a
_point_.
> Then release a 1.6.0.1. But the major problem is something else: it's that
> doing PATH="$PATH:$(git --exec-path) is also deprecated, i.e. that workaround
> is to go away in one of the next releases too.
NO, IT IS NOT DEPRECATED.
That was a plan. I think that plan got scuttled already. Stop whining!
Can't you understand that people can change plans based on feedback?
Effing whiners.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-26 18:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 193+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-24 3:33 [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for builtins Junio C Hamano
2008-08-24 4:23 ` [kernel.org users] " Linus Torvalds
2008-08-24 4:54 ` Imran M Yousuf
2008-08-24 8:40 ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-25 11:49 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-25 12:17 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-08-25 12:43 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-26 3:00 ` A Large Angry SCM
2008-08-25 13:22 ` Ben Collins
2008-08-25 14:38 ` Felipe Contreras
2008-08-25 18:19 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-08-25 23:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-26 12:27 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-26 14:57 ` Jeff King
2008-08-26 15:34 ` Kristian Høgsberg
2008-08-26 15:59 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-26 16:04 ` Matthias Kestenholz
2008-08-26 16:25 ` Petr Baudis
2008-08-26 16:45 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-26 17:04 ` Jeff King
2008-08-26 17:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-26 17:27 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-27 6:04 ` Ulrich Windl
2008-08-26 17:10 ` Petr Baudis
2008-08-26 17:11 ` [PATCH] bash completion: Hide more plumbing commands Petr Baudis
2008-08-26 17:24 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-26 17:43 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-08-26 18:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-26 18:27 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-26 19:04 ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-08-26 19:07 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-26 19:23 ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-09-03 22:23 ` Petr Baudis
2008-09-03 22:31 ` Petr Baudis
2008-08-26 17:38 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-09-03 17:56 ` Petr Baudis
2008-09-04 4:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-26 21:53 ` Matthieu Moy
2008-08-27 9:09 ` Karl Hasselström
2008-08-26 17:12 ` [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for builtins Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-26 17:16 ` Jeff King
2008-08-26 17:47 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2008-08-26 21:06 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-08-27 20:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-08-27 20:27 ` Jeff King
2008-08-27 20:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-08-27 20:53 ` Jeff King
2008-08-27 21:05 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-08-27 21:13 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-27 21:22 ` Jeff King
2008-08-27 22:29 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-27 21:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-27 23:49 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-08-28 6:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-28 7:46 ` git-show vs git-log (or: git show vs git log) Dominik Brodowski
2008-08-28 14:44 ` [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for builtins Alex Riesen
2008-08-28 5:43 ` Mike Hommey
2008-08-27 20:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-27 6:00 ` Ulrich Windl
2008-08-27 7:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-27 19:14 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-08-27 19:43 ` Perry Wagle
2008-08-27 19:50 ` Jeff King
2008-08-27 19:54 ` Perry Wagle
2008-08-27 20:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-27 21:19 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-27 23:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-27 23:53 ` Perry Wagle
2008-08-28 0:05 ` Perry Wagle
2008-08-28 9:04 ` Petr Baudis
2008-08-28 10:33 ` Perry Wagle
2008-08-28 10:42 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-28 19:56 ` Perry Wagle
2008-08-28 10:47 ` Petr Baudis
2008-08-28 16:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-28 19:24 ` Perry Wagle
2008-08-28 19:52 ` Teemu Likonen
2008-08-28 20:23 ` Perry Wagle
2008-08-28 20:44 ` Petr Baudis
2008-08-28 20:57 ` Perry Wagle
2008-08-28 21:23 ` Jeff King
2008-08-28 21:41 ` Perry Wagle
2008-08-28 21:53 ` Petr Baudis
2008-08-28 21:59 ` Jeff King
2008-08-28 22:33 ` Perry Wagle
2008-08-28 23:04 ` Jeff King
2008-08-28 23:22 ` Perry Wagle
2008-08-28 23:36 ` Jeff King
2008-08-28 23:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-28 23:28 ` Perry Wagle
2008-08-28 23:30 ` Petr Baudis
2008-08-28 23:41 ` git-* in test scripts (was On deprecating "git-foo" for builtins) Jeff King
2008-08-29 0:04 ` git-* in test scripts Junio C Hamano
2008-08-29 0:10 ` Jeff King
2008-08-29 7:51 ` [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for builtins Andreas Ericsson
2008-08-29 8:05 ` Matthieu Moy
2008-08-29 8:23 ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-08-29 8:27 ` Matthias Kestenholz
2008-08-29 9:02 ` Matthieu Moy
2008-08-28 23:12 ` Perry Wagle
2008-08-29 15:24 ` Aidan Van Dyk
2008-08-29 16:11 ` Felipe Contreras
2008-08-29 16:24 ` Aidan Van Dyk
2008-08-29 16:28 ` Felipe Contreras
2008-08-29 16:41 ` Aidan Van Dyk
2008-08-30 8:13 ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-08-28 23:31 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-08-29 9:33 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2008-08-30 13:24 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-30 13:50 ` Teemu Likonen
2008-08-30 14:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-26 17:07 ` Jeff King
2008-08-26 17:42 ` Teemu Likonen
2008-08-26 16:17 ` Kristian Høgsberg
2008-08-26 16:23 ` Jean Delvare
2008-08-26 16:50 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-08-26 17:20 ` Jean Delvare
2008-08-27 7:42 ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-08-27 8:21 ` Jean Delvare
2008-08-27 15:14 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-08-26 20:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-27 7:42 ` Jean Delvare
2008-08-27 8:32 ` [kernel.org users] " Andreas Ericsson
2008-08-26 17:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-26 17:29 ` Bruce Stephens
2008-08-26 17:35 ` Petr Baudis
2008-08-26 17:38 ` Bruce Stephens
2008-08-28 15:21 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-08-26 17:34 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-08-26 18:09 ` Dominik Brodowski
2008-08-26 18:19 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2008-08-26 18:55 ` Al Viro
2008-08-26 19:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-26 19:22 ` Al Viro
2008-08-26 19:11 ` Teemu Likonen
2008-08-28 15:24 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-08-26 21:08 ` Dominik Brodowski
2008-08-26 21:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-26 21:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-26 23:21 ` Perry Wagle
2008-08-27 15:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-27 23:09 ` Russell King
2008-08-27 23:53 ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-28 19:19 ` Russell King
2008-08-28 20:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-28 20:30 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-08-28 20:36 ` Petr Baudis
2008-08-28 20:57 ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-28 21:05 ` Perry Wagle
2008-08-28 1:25 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-27 0:34 ` A Large Angry SCM
2008-08-27 12:23 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-08-26 20:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-26 21:03 ` Jeff King
2008-08-27 2:24 ` Jay Soffian
2008-08-27 14:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-26 23:36 ` Perry Wagle
2008-08-26 23:45 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-28 15:32 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-08-27 0:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-08-27 22:52 ` Russell King
2008-08-28 15:34 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-08-28 16:10 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-08-28 19:18 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-08-28 19:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-08-27 23:38 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-28 0:09 ` Felipe Contreras
2008-08-28 0:44 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-08-28 7:14 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-28 8:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-08-28 8:32 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-28 8:57 ` Felipe Contreras
2008-08-28 11:54 ` Al Viro
2008-08-28 13:15 ` Felipe Contreras
2008-08-28 13:34 ` Felipe Contreras
2008-08-28 13:45 ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2008-08-28 16:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-28 20:42 ` Perry Wagle
2008-08-28 23:03 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-08-28 23:14 ` Perry Wagle
2008-08-28 23:45 ` Jeff King
2008-08-28 23:55 ` Perry Wagle
2008-08-29 14:12 ` Felipe Contreras
2008-08-28 14:06 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-28 14:13 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-08-28 16:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-26 2:58 ` A Large Angry SCM
2008-08-26 7:17 ` Jean Delvare
2008-08-26 11:12 ` A Large Angry SCM
2008-08-26 11:56 ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-26 21:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-26 14:28 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-08-26 14:46 ` Jeff King
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