From: Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>
To: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
Cc: "Shawn O. Pearce" <spearce@spearce.org>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Request for detailed documentation of git pack protocol
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:13:21 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0905141353040.6741@xanadu.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200905141024.17525.jnareb@gmail.com>
On Thu, 14 May 2009, Jakub Narebski wrote:
> I was afraid of this: that the people who know pack protocol good
> enough to be able to write it down are otherwise busy. But we get
> detailed / updated packfile and pack index format descriptions some
> time ago (thanks all that contributed to it!). I hope that the same
> would happen with pack _protocol_ description.
If someone with the wish for such a document volunteers to work on it
then I'm sure people with fuller knowledge will review and comment on
the result as appropriate.
> I was hoping of document in RFC format; dreaming about having it
> submitted to IETF as (at least) unofficial RFC like Atom Publication
> Protocol (or is it proper RFC these days?), and then accepted like
> HTTP protocol.
I think we'd have to move to a new version of the protocol for that.
The current protocol, even if it does the job, is not particularly
elegant.
> > And lets not even start to mention Dulwich not completing a thin
> > pack before storing it on disk. Those sorts of on disk things
> > matter to other more popular Git implementations (c git, jgit).
>
> Ugh! Errr... aren't thin packs send only if other side has the
> capability for it? What is then Dulwich doing announcing such
> capability when not supporting it correctly...
They probably don't bother because in theory you don't need to complete
a thin pack for the system to still work. We require that any pack
never contain a delta which base object is in a different pack because
that makes for better performances when accessing the pack and when
repacking. And not doing so makes pack validation (think verify-pack)
impossible without the dependent objects, and that makes incremental
repacking much much harder wrt prevention of delta cycles.
Those validation tools from C git (fsck, verify-pack, etc.) should be
quite useful for people wishing to implement their own git.
Nicolas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-14 18:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-12 21:29 Request for detailed documentation of git pack protocol Jakub Narebski
2009-05-12 23:34 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-05-14 8:24 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-05-14 14:57 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-05-14 15:02 ` Andreas Ericsson
2009-05-15 20:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-05-15 16:51 ` Clemens Buchacher
2009-05-14 18:13 ` Nicolas Pitre [this message]
2009-05-14 20:27 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-05-14 13:55 ` Scott Chacon
2009-05-14 14:44 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-05-14 15:01 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-05-15 0:58 ` A Large Angry SCM
2009-05-15 19:05 ` Ealdwulf Wuffinga
2009-06-02 21:39 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-02 23:27 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 0:50 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 1:29 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 2:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-06-03 2:15 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 9:21 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 14:48 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 15:07 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 15:39 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 15:50 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 16:51 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 16:56 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 20:19 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 20:24 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 22:04 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 22:04 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 22:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-06-03 22:46 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-04 7:17 ` Andreas Ericsson
2009-06-04 7:26 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-06-06 16:33 ` Scott Chacon
2009-06-06 17:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-06-06 17:41 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 21:38 ` Tony Finch
2009-06-03 17:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-06-03 19:05 ` Johannes Sixt
2009-06-03 2:18 ` Robin H. Johnson
2009-06-03 10:47 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 14:17 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 20:56 ` Tony Finch
2009-06-03 21:20 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 21:53 ` Tony Finch
2009-06-04 8:45 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-04 11:41 ` Tony Finch
2009-06-04 18:41 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-03 12:29 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-03 14:19 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-04 20:55 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-04 21:57 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-05 0:45 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-05 7:24 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-05 8:45 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-06 21:38 ` Comments pack protocol description in "Git Community Book" (second round) Jakub Narebski
2009-06-06 21:58 ` Scott Chacon
2009-06-07 8:21 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-07 20:13 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-07 20:43 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-13 9:30 ` Comments pack protocol description in "RFC for the Git Packfile Protocol" (long) Jakub Narebski
2009-06-07 20:06 ` Comments pack protocol description in "Git Community Book" (second round) Shawn O. Pearce
2009-06-09 9:39 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-06-09 14:28 ` Shawn O. Pearce
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