Sneak peek of the upcoming Git for Windows 2.x

Sneak peek of the upcoming Git for Windows 2.x

[Johannes Schindelin]

Dear all,

during the really exciting Git Merge conference, the Git for Windows developers had the opportunity to meet and we managed to whip out a *really* early beta of the upcoming Git for Windows 2.x series.

Please keep in mind that we not only changed our entire development environment, but that this change also affects end user installations quite a bit: as parts of Git are still written in shell and Perl, we have to ship a shell and Perl interpreter, too, which are naturally plucked from the development environment.

Of course that implies that there are probably still quite a couple of rough edges. Nevertheless, if you want to have a *really* early glimpse at the upcoming major release, feel free to give it a spin: https://git-for-windows.github.io/#download

Enjoy,
Johannes

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Re: Sneak peek of the upcoming Git for Windows 2.x

[rupert thurner]

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excellent, i like it so much!! besides the obvious:
* the colors are fixed, so it is not any more dark red on black for added 
files, but red on black and readable
* installs with the necessary performance options
* the readme contains things i fell over in the past. 

three things i do not like it so much:
* the old distinct icon is replaced by a new one which looks similar to 
many other programs, like google chrome. would it be possible to set the 
old icon? 
* the prompt is still as slow as before, calculating the branch name on 
pressing return without option to turn it off
* it is talking german to me

would it be sufficient to delete
c:\Apps\gitwin\mingw64\share\locale\de\LC_MESSAGES\
resp the whole locale directory to let it speak english?

rupert.


On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 1:43:30 PM UTC+2, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
>
> Dear all, 
>
> during the really exciting Git Merge conference, the Git for Windows 
> developers had the opportunity to meet and we managed to whip out a 
> *really* early beta of the upcoming Git for Windows 2.x series. 
>
> Please keep in mind that we not only changed our entire development 
> environment, but that this change also affects end user installations quite 
> a bit: as parts of Git are still written in shell and Perl, we have to ship 
> a shell and Perl interpreter, too, which are naturally plucked from the 
> development environment. 
>
> Of course that implies that there are probably still quite a couple of 
> rough edges. Nevertheless, if you want to have a *really* early glimpse at 
> the upcoming major release, feel free to give it a spin: 
> https://git-for-windows.github.io/#download 
>
> Enjoy, 
> Johannes 
>

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Re: Re: Sneak peek of the upcoming Git for Windows 2.x

[Johannes Schindelin]

Hi Rupert,

On 2015-04-11 10:37, rupert thurner wrote:
> 
> three things i do not like it so much:
> * the old distinct icon is replaced by a new one which looks similar to 
> many other programs, like google chrome. would it be possible to set the 
> old icon?

Git 1.9.5 came with the Git icon already (the diamond with the branch in it) and now we simply have this "Windowsified". There was so much positive and uplifting feedback about it at the Git Merge (and besides, I really like the new icon myself), it is unlikely to change.

> * the prompt is still as slow as before, calculating the branch name on 
> pressing return without option to turn it off

There is no explicit option in the installer to turn it off, but you can easily edit `/etc/profile.d/git-prompt.sh` to adjust it to your liking.

If you think that more people would want to have an option in the installer to switch it off, you should read https://github.com/git-for-windows/git/wiki/Making-an-installer, edit /usr/src/build-extra/installer/install.iss.in after having a look at https://github.com/git-for-windows/build-extra/commit/cbcf69b9 and open a Pull Request.
 
> * it is talking german to me
> 
> would it be sufficient to delete
> c:\Apps\gitwin\mingw64\share\locale\de\LC_MESSAGES\
> resp the whole locale directory to let it speak english?

Probably. But the canonical solution is to set the `LC_ALL` or `LANG` environment variables accordingly.

Ciao,
Johannes

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Re: [msysGit] Re: Sneak peek of the upcoming Git for Windows 2.x

[Konstantin Khomoutov]

On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 19:51:29 +0200
Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:

[...]
> > * it is talking german to me
> > 
> > would it be sufficient to delete
> > c:\Apps\gitwin\mingw64\share\locale\de\LC_MESSAGES\
> > resp the whole locale directory to let it speak english?
> 
> Probably. But the canonical solution is to set the `LC_ALL` or `LANG`
> environment variables accordingly.

JFTR, that won't probably fix `git gui` and `gitk` as they are started
directly, not via shell scripts, and hence are unaffected by whatever
tweaks are done in ~/.bashrc *unless* they're started from the
interactive Git bash shell and hence see that environment.

I would hence just stick LC_MESSAGES=en (or LC_ALL, or LANG) into the
environment variables (on the user's level) and solve this problem once
and for all future programs making use of Unix-y locale setup
conventions.

Re: Re: Sneak peek of the upcoming Git for Windows 2.x

[Tay Ray Chuan]

Hi Rupert,

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 1:51 AM, Johannes Schindelin
<johannes.schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> On 2015-04-11 10:37, rupert thurner wrote:
> > * the prompt is still as slow as before, calculating the branch name on
> > pressing return without option to turn it off
>
> There is no explicit option in the installer to turn it off, but you can easily edit `/etc/profile.d/git-prompt.sh` to adjust it to your liking.
>
> If you think that more people would want to have an option in the installer to switch it off, you should read https://github.com/git-for-windows/git/wiki/Making-an-installer, edit /usr/src/build-extra/installer/install.iss.in after having a look at https://github.com/git-for-windows/build-extra/commit/cbcf69b9 and open a Pull Request.

Personally I edit it away from PS1:
https://github.com/rctay/msysgit/commit/4038833505bc2c088524546e923d64d69c0fa37f

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Re: Sneak peek of the upcoming Git for Windows 2.x

[Vitaly]

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>
>  feel free to give it a spin: https://git-for-windows.github.io/#download 
>

I have installed msysgit 1.9.4, installing git for windows 2.3.5.8 (into 
default localtion and with "use from Windows command prompt") and call "git 
--version" still give me  msysgit1.9.4
I have delete gfw 2.3.5.8 and msysgit 1.9.4, install gfw 2.3.5.8 once again 
(and check "use from Windows command prompt") and now I have:
C:\>git
error launching git:      .

I see C:\Program Files (x86)\Git\bin in my PATH (from old installs?), but 
did not see this directory (bin) under Git installation

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Re: Re: Sneak peek of the upcoming Git for Windows 2.x

[Johannes Schindelin]

Hi Vitaly,

On 2015-04-15 09:17, Vitaly wrote:
>>
>>  feel free to give it a spin: https://git-for-windows.github.io/#download
>>
> 
> I have installed msysgit 1.9.4, installing git for windows 2.3.5.8 (into 
> default localtion and with "use from Windows command prompt")

Which version, 32-bit or 64-bit? PortableGit or regular Git?

> and call "git --version" still give me  msysgit1.9.4

And the path was not adjusted at all? That would be strange indeed.

> I have delete gfw 2.3.5.8 and msysgit 1.9.4, install gfw 2.3.5.8 once again 
> (and check "use from Windows command prompt") and now I have:
> C:\>git
> error launching git:      .
> 
> I see C:\Program Files (x86)\Git\bin in my PATH (from old installs?), but 
> did not see this directory (bin) under Git installation

There is explicit code to modify the PATH environment variable when you choose the "from Windows command prompt" option: https://github.com/git-for-windows/build-extra/blob/4fdceef37514d1b35d524a8752ccf4e7ad778f60/installer/install.iss.in#L1163-L1177

Just to make sure, you are certain that the PATH variable is not touched, even if you reinstall (without uninstalling Git for Windows first)?

Ciao,
Johannes

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Re: Re: Sneak peek of the upcoming Git for Windows 2.x

[Vitaly]

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>
> > C:\>git 
> > error launching git:      .
>

I have found the root of problem in broken git-wrapper: old git-wrapper in 
msysgit repository uses case-insensitive path comparison after calling 
GetModuleFileName (in my case there is "git.EXE"). This is my dummy fix: 
https://github.com/vitalyster/git/commit/c1904dbee2aab59b5dc213960dfb2481c8d7a1bf 

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Re: Sneak peek of the upcoming Git for Windows 2.x

[rupert thurner]

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On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 1:43:30 PM UTC+2, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
>
> Dear all, 
>
> during the really exciting Git Merge conference, the Git for Windows 
> developers had the opportunity to meet and we managed to whip out a 
> *really* early beta of the upcoming Git for Windows 2.x series. 
>
> Please keep in mind that we not only changed our entire development 
> environment, but that this change also affects end user installations quite 
> a bit: as parts of Git are still written in shell and Perl, we have to ship 
> a shell and Perl interpreter, too, which are naturally plucked from the 
> development environment. 
>
> Of course that implies that there are probably still quite a couple of 
> rough edges. Nevertheless, if you want to have a *really* early glimpse at 
> the upcoming major release, feel free to give it a spin: 
> https://git-for-windows.github.io/#download 
>
>
after using it now for a couple of weeks every week or so, on windows-7, 
git-receive-pack.exe hangs from time to time and cannot be killed any more. 
i start it either with
  git fetch --all -p
  git push

it looks like it does not take any signals at all. no ctrl-c in the mintty, 
nor a kill via sysinternals process explorer. up to now only reboot helped, 
but pretty sure i miss something here.

best,
rupert
 

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Re: Re: Sneak peek of the upcoming Git for Windows 2.x

[Johannes Schindelin]

Hi Rupert,

On 2015-04-29 17:23, rupert thurner wrote:
> On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 1:43:30 PM UTC+2, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
>>
>> during the really exciting Git Merge conference, the Git for Windows
>> developers had the opportunity to meet and we managed to whip out a
>> *really* early beta of the upcoming Git for Windows 2.x series.
>>
>> Please keep in mind that we not only changed our entire development
>> environment, but that this change also affects end user installations quite
>> a bit: as parts of Git are still written in shell and Perl, we have to ship
>> a shell and Perl interpreter, too, which are naturally plucked from the
>> development environment.
>>
>> Of course that implies that there are probably still quite a couple of
>> rough edges. Nevertheless, if you want to have a *really* early glimpse at
>> the upcoming major release, feel free to give it a spin:
>> https://git-for-windows.github.io/#download
>>
>>
> after using it now for a couple of weeks every week or so, on windows-7, 
> git-receive-pack.exe hangs from time to time and cannot be killed any more. 
> i start it either with
>   git fetch --all -p
>   git push
> 
> it looks like it does not take any signals at all. no ctrl-c in the mintty, 
> nor a kill via sysinternals process explorer. up to now only reboot helped, 
> but pretty sure i miss something here.

Please, it is really, really crucial that you specify precisely what version of the package you talk about. It is tempting to say something like "windows-7" or "I used Git for Windows", but please keep in mind that this is hardly specific. Windows 7 can be anything between 32-bit and 64-bit, with or without service packs, in administrator mode or user mode. Git for Windows is even worse because we bundle packages into a single installer. However, from the way you describe things I imagine that you used a version of the installer. The installer contains a file that lists the individual package versions, therefore it should be good enough to specify which version `git version` reports.

Please make a point of including all of this information in your bug reports to make it easier for the people who you ask for help.

Ciao,
Johannes

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Re: Re: Sneak peek of the upcoming Git for Windows 2.x

[rupert thurner]

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On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 5:40:52 PM UTC+2, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
>
> Hi Rupert, 
>
> On 2015-04-29 17:23, rupert thurner wrote: 
> > On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 1:43:30 PM UTC+2, Johannes Schindelin 
> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> during the really exciting Git Merge conference, the Git for Windows 
> >> developers had the opportunity to meet and we managed to whip out a 
> >> *really* early beta of the upcoming Git for Windows 2.x series. 
> >> 
> >> Please keep in mind that we not only changed our entire development 
> >> environment, but that this change also affects end user installations 
> quite 
> >> a bit: as parts of Git are still written in shell and Perl, we have to 
> ship 
> >> a shell and Perl interpreter, too, which are naturally plucked from the 
> >> development environment. 
> >> 
> >> Of course that implies that there are probably still quite a couple of 
> >> rough edges. Nevertheless, if you want to have a *really* early glimpse 
> at 
> >> the upcoming major release, feel free to give it a spin: 
> >> https://git-for-windows.github.io/#download 
> >> 
> >> 
> > after using it now for a couple of weeks every week or so, on windows-7, 
> > git-receive-pack.exe hangs from time to time and cannot be killed any 
> more. 
> > i start it either with 
> >   git fetch --all -p 
> >   git push 
> > 
> > it looks like it does not take any signals at all. no ctrl-c in the 
> mintty, 
> > nor a kill via sysinternals process explorer. up to now only reboot 
> helped, 
> > but pretty sure i miss something here. 
>
> Please, it is really, really crucial that you specify precisely what 
> version of the package you talk about. It is tempting to say something like 
> "windows-7" or "I used Git for Windows", but please keep in mind that this 
> is hardly specific. Windows 7 can be anything between 32-bit and 64-bit, 
> with or without service packs, in administrator mode or user mode. Git for 
> Windows is even worse because we bundle packages into a single installer. 
> However, from the way you describe things I imagine that you used a version 
> of the installer. The installer contains a file that lists the individual 
> package versions, therefore it should be good enough to specify which 
> version `git version` reports. 
>
> Please make a point of including all of this information in your bug 
> reports to make it easier for the people who you ask for help.

uh, yes, you are right, there are 2 other releases since you wrote this 
mail. windows 7 enterprise, service pack 1, 64 bit
Git-2.3.5.8-dev-preview-64-bit.exe
   $ git --version
   git version 2.3.5.windows.8
the user is non-administrative, which is able to intall apps as admin after 
clicking. i'll install Git-2.3.7.1-dev-preview-64-bit.exe and write again 
if the behaviour is still there.

rupert



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