From: Michael Witten <mfwitten@gmail.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Daniel Barkalow <barkalow@iabervon.org>,
Johan Herland <johan@herland.net>,
git@vger.kernel.org, David Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com>,
"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Subject: Re: [doc] User Manual Suggestion
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:18:44 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b4087cc50904241518w625a9890vecdd36bb937e76d5@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090424213848.GA14493@coredump.intra.peff.net>
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 16:38, Jeff King <peff@peff.net> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 05:34:00PM -0400, Daniel Barkalow wrote:
>
>> I'd say that blobs and trees are an implementation detail of "the full
>> content of a version of the project", not something conceptually
>> important. Likewise, the date representation used in commits isn't
> ...
> No, that isn't critical for understanding how _commit_ operations work,
> but I think that is exactly the sort of conceptual knowledge that let
> people use git more fully.
I think the key conlusion here is that the main concepts are *objects*
and references to those objects. One type of object is not necessarily
more low-level or high-level than another type of object; each type of
object is the most important type of object for a particular task in
or view of the git world.
> I disagree. I think it's important to note that trees and blobs have a
> name, and you can refer to them. Once you know that, the fact that you
> can do:
>
> git show master
> git show master:Documentation
> git show master:Makefile
>
> just makes sense. You are always just specifying an object, but the type
> is different for each (and show "does the right thing" based on object
> type).
In fact, I think it's important to note that the notation:
git show master:Makefile
actually involves a translation from a Unix filesystem address to a
git object address that is then used to find the relevant data.
In fact, I think masking this kind of thing with a catch-all word
'reference' is a bad idea. Rather than being hidden, it should be
exposed: I think it would be beneficial to use the word 'address'
rather than 'reference' when talking about the SHA-1 names. Then HEAD
could be called a pointer variable, etc.
So, a pointer variable's value is an object address that is the
location of an object in git 'memory'. I think using this approach
would make things significantly more transparent.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-24 22:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-22 19:38 [doc] User Manual Suggestion David Abrahams
2009-04-23 17:57 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-04-23 18:37 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-23 20:16 ` Jeff King
2009-04-23 20:45 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-23 21:31 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-24 0:31 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 14:18 ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 14:20 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-04-24 17:28 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-24 18:15 ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 19:00 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-24 20:24 ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 21:06 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-24 22:45 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-25 0:39 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-26 23:35 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-24 14:11 ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 14:30 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 14:33 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 15:04 ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 15:18 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 17:38 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-04-24 18:27 ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 18:35 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <34BD51FF-0908-48A8-BBBC-E27B0EFB32E5@boostpro.com>
2009-04-24 18:52 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-04-25 10:35 ` Felipe Contreras
2009-04-24 19:12 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-23 21:26 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-23 22:51 ` Johan Herland
2009-04-24 0:30 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 20:30 ` Johan Herland
2009-04-24 21:34 ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-04-24 21:38 ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 22:18 ` Michael Witten [this message]
2009-04-24 22:25 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 23:11 ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-04-24 23:14 ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 23:18 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 23:31 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 23:35 ` Jeff King
2009-04-25 0:19 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-25 10:18 ` Felipe Contreras
2009-04-24 23:26 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-25 18:55 ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-04-25 19:16 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-25 19:24 ` Felipe Contreras
2009-04-25 19:36 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-25 20:53 ` Felipe Contreras
2009-04-26 11:28 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-26 13:55 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-26 17:56 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-26 20:17 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-26 22:25 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-27 1:41 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-27 16:30 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-27 16:52 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-26 16:36 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-26 18:12 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-26 20:20 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-25 0:41 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-24 23:16 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-25 0:01 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-25 0:48 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-26 22:42 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-05-02 15:53 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-05-02 18:36 ` Michael Witten
2009-05-02 21:11 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-05-02 23:13 ` Michael Witten
2009-05-02 23:32 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-05-03 1:10 ` Michael Witten
2009-05-03 1:48 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-05-03 1:18 ` Mark Lodato
2009-05-03 1:26 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 23:21 ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-04-24 23:25 ` Jeff King
2009-04-26 23:41 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-24 23:29 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-27 0:00 ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-04-25 0:19 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-25 0:26 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-25 0:35 ` Jeff King
2009-04-25 0:53 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-29 6:34 ` Jeff King
2009-04-29 13:27 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-29 14:05 ` Jeff King
2009-04-24 2:29 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-04-24 2:34 ` Michael Witten
2009-04-24 4:06 ` David Abrahams
2009-04-24 14:10 ` J. Bruce Fields
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