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From: Michael Witten <mfwitten@gmail.com>
To: Reece Dunn <msclrhd@googlemail.com>
Cc: Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org>, david@lang.hm, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: What's in a name? Let's use a (uuid,name,email) triplet
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 06:16:27 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b4087cc51003190516h42202e34k598a163c246cb9f2@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3f4fd2641003190509j6e4908e4kab87b601d2ce9c00@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 06:09, Reece Dunn <msclrhd@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On 19 March 2010 11:54, Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org> wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 04:45:38AM -0700, david@lang.hm wrote:
>>> here is where you are missing the point.
>>>
>>> no, there is not 'much less chance' of it getting messed up.
>>>
>>> you seem to assume that people would never need to set the UUID on
>>> multiple machines.
>>>
>>> if they don't need to set it on multiple machines, then the
>>> e-mail/userid is going to be reliable anyway
>>>
>>> if they do need to set it on multiple machines and can't be bothered
>>> to keep their e-mail consistant, why would they bother keeping this
>>> additional thing considtant? Linus is pointing out that people don't
>>> care now about their e-mail and name, and will care even less about
>>> some abstract UUID
>>>
>>> people who care will already make their e-mail consistant.
>>
>> While I don't agree with the need for that uuid thing, I'd like to
>> pinpoint that people who care can't necessarily make their e-mail
>> consistant. For example, Linus used to use an @osdl.org address, and
>> he now uses an @linux-foundation.org address. It's still the same Linus,
>> but the (name, email) pair has legitimately changed.
>
> So create an aliases list that maps one (name,email) to another that
> is from the same person. There is no need for an additional item (a
> uuid) to solve this problem. It also means that searching on any
> (name,email) pair will find the others, so you only need to
> remember/find one of the identities for the person you are interested
> in finding the commits for.
>
> AFAICS, mailmap is about correcting mistakes (primarily in the
> reported name for a given email address). In this case, mailmap and
> this aliases-map will work in conjunction with each other to give what
> the original poster wanted. However, I haven't seen any of his replies
> that answer this (or sufficiently address why mailmap does not solve
> his problem).

See:

    http://marc.info/?l=git&m=126900051102958&w=2

The idea is to distribute the responsibility for maintaining a
consistent identity AND to make that responsibility EASY.

The extra uuid `field' can only suffer from typos, while the
name/email pair can suffer from typos, changing email accounts, and
changing real life names. If the uuid `field' does get bungled by a
typo or is not used, then we're no worse off than we were before.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-19 12:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-18 13:23 What's in a name? Let's use a (uuid,name,email) triplet Michael Witten
2010-03-18 13:48 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-18 14:26   ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 17:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 19:02   ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-18 19:07     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 19:16       ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-18 19:20         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 19:37           ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-18 19:47             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 19:50               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 20:01                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-19 19:39                   ` Junio C Hamano
2010-03-18 20:31                 ` Reece Dunn
2010-03-18 20:59                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 19:32       ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 19:40         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 19:47           ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 19:52             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 20:00               ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 19:52             ` Wincent Colaiuta
2010-03-18 19:40         ` Wincent Colaiuta
2010-03-18 19:42         ` Martin Langhoff
2010-03-18 22:36   ` Martin Langhoff
2010-03-18 23:17     ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-18 23:26       ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-18 23:34         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-18 23:41           ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-18 23:58             ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-19  0:16               ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-19  0:17                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-19  0:39                   ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-19  0:50                     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-19  1:12                       ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-19  1:45                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-19  2:05                           ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-18 23:34       ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 18:42 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 18:47   ` Matthieu Moy
2010-03-18 18:57     ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 19:12   ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-18 20:44   ` tytso
2010-03-18 21:12     ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 21:19       ` Martin Langhoff
2010-03-18 21:29         ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 21:39           ` Martin Langhoff
2010-03-18 21:46             ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 21:55               ` Martin Langhoff
2010-03-18 22:02                 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 23:37                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-18 23:44                     ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19  0:03                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-19  0:27                         ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19  0:32                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-03-18 22:06               ` Reece Dunn
2010-03-18 21:57             ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 12:34               ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-19 12:43                 ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 12:53                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-19 13:03                     ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 13:08                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-19 13:13                         ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 13:41                           ` Wincent Colaiuta
2010-03-19 13:59                             ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 14:13                               ` Martin Langhoff
2010-03-18 21:27       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-18 21:44         ` Michael Witten
2010-03-18 23:12         ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-18 22:17 ` A Large Angry SCM
2010-03-19  2:47 ` Sitaram Chamarty
2010-03-19  5:17   ` Nazri Ramliy
2010-03-19  8:41 ` Michael Haggerty
2010-03-19 11:39   ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 11:45     ` david
2010-03-19 11:54       ` Mike Hommey
2010-03-19 12:09         ` Reece Dunn
2010-03-19 12:16           ` Michael Witten [this message]
2010-03-19 12:18             ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 14:57             ` Reece Dunn
2010-03-19 15:26               ` Michael J Gruber
2010-03-19 16:05                 ` david
2010-03-19 17:16                   ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 12:25           ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-19 12:40             ` Reece Dunn
2010-03-19 12:09         ` Michael Witten
2010-03-22 12:06           ` Mark Brown
2010-03-22 14:38           ` Michael Witten
2010-03-24 19:18             ` Erik Faye-Lund
2010-03-24 19:23               ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 12:08       ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 14:08     ` Michael Haggerty
2010-03-19 17:02       ` david
2010-03-19 17:06         ` Michael Witten
2010-03-24 18:50           ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-19 14:08 ` Jakub Narebski
2010-03-19 14:33   ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-19 14:52     ` Michael J Gruber
2010-03-19 14:40   ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 14:56     ` Erik Faye-Lund
2010-03-19 15:05       ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 15:12         ` Michael Witten
2010-03-19 15:25         ` Erik Faye-Lund
2010-03-19 15:12     ` Reece Dunn
2010-03-20  0:21     ` Jakub Narebski

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