From: Morgan Schweers <mschweers@gmail.com>
To: git@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Tom Lord <lord@emf.net>
Subject: Re: Mercurial 0.4b vs git patchbomb benchmark
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:16:44 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b8464fde050429131677ae06d1@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200504291954.MAA27561@emf.net>
Greetings,
On 4/29/05, Tom Lord <lord@emf.net> wrote:
>
>
> > Call me a naive git, but seems to me the "git way" is a little
> > different. It's tree-based rather than diff-based, and doesn't involve
> > passing diffs around, right?
>
> Isn't that a significant part of what I said? Go back and read more
> carefully, is my suggestion.
>
> > Or am I missing something?
>
> Very much so.
It doesn't appear that he is. You appeared to predicate your argument
on the 'auditor' believing a diff looks good, but getting a tree
instead, that might not reflect the diff.
Instead, in the git-world, the auditor actually gets a tree, and
produces the diff themselves, and then decides whether the diff looks
good enough to keep.
The argument about the high velocity of git-transfers causing the
inability to check doesn't appear to apply here, because the
distributed development environment of Linux says that the
'gatekeepers' ARE in fact validating the changes from people in their
area of expertise are good (or are relying on sub-gatekeepers), and
then Linus is trusting them completely.
This seems like the methodology that has been used up until now via bk
previously. Git doesn't change that, and in fact supports that method
of development.
Your further suggestion that Linus could be replaced by a
patch-manager, in that case, got a chuckle from me at least, but the
more serious point is that Linus is necessary as the arbiter of who
actually receives the absolute trust of a gatekeeper. He is, in
effect, a meta-gatekeeper.
> -t
In reading this conversation, it seems you're looking for a more
absolute standard of trust than the kernel developers are working
with. I believe this is an example of 'good enough' process being
accepted, versus 'perfect' process.
-- Morgan Schweers
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-04-29 20:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-04-26 0:41 Mercurial 0.3 vs git benchmarks Matt Mackall
2005-04-26 1:49 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-26 2:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-26 2:30 ` Mike Taht
2005-04-26 3:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-26 4:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-26 11:13 ` Chris Mason
2005-04-26 15:09 ` Magnus Damm
2005-04-26 15:38 ` Chris Mason
2005-04-26 16:23 ` Magnus Damm
2005-04-26 18:18 ` Chris Mason
2005-04-26 20:56 ` Andrew Morton
2005-04-26 21:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-26 22:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-04-26 22:56 ` Andrew Morton
2005-04-26 23:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-04-27 15:01 ` Florian Weimer
2005-04-27 15:13 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2005-04-27 18:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-04-27 19:01 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2005-04-27 19:57 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-04-27 20:06 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2005-04-27 20:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-04-27 20:39 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2005-04-27 20:47 ` Florian Weimer
2005-04-27 20:55 ` Florian Weimer
2005-04-27 21:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-04-27 21:06 ` Florian Weimer
2005-04-27 21:32 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-04-27 19:55 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-04-27 6:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-27 21:10 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-04-27 21:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-26 16:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-26 17:39 ` Chris Mason
2005-04-26 19:52 ` Chris Mason
2005-04-26 18:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-04-26 20:30 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-04-26 16:11 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-04-26 4:01 ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-26 4:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-26 4:09 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-26 4:22 ` Andreas Gal
2005-04-26 4:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-29 6:01 ` Mercurial 0.4b vs git patchbomb benchmark Matt Mackall
2005-04-29 6:40 ` Sean
2005-04-29 7:40 ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-29 8:40 ` Sean
2005-04-29 14:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-29 15:18 ` Morten Welinder
2005-04-29 16:52 ` Matt Mackall
2005-05-02 16:10 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-02 19:02 ` Sean
2005-05-02 22:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-02 22:30 ` Matt Mackall
2005-05-02 22:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-03 0:00 ` Matt Mackall
2005-05-03 2:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-03 3:29 ` Matt Mackall
2005-05-03 4:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-03 4:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-03 4:27 ` Matt Mackall
2005-05-03 8:45 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-29 15:44 ` Tom Lord
2005-04-29 15:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-29 17:34 ` Tom Lord
2005-04-29 17:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-29 18:08 ` Tom Lord
2005-04-29 18:33 ` Sean
2005-04-29 18:54 ` Tom Lord
2005-04-29 19:13 ` Sean
2005-04-29 19:22 ` Tom Lord
2005-04-29 19:28 ` Tom Lord
2005-04-29 19:47 ` Noel Maddy
2005-04-29 19:54 ` Tom Lord
2005-04-29 20:13 ` Andrew Timberlake-Newell
2005-04-29 20:26 ` Tom Lord
2005-04-29 20:57 ` Andrew Timberlake-Newell
2005-04-29 20:16 ` Morgan Schweers [this message]
2005-04-29 20:21 ` Noel Maddy
2005-04-29 20:42 ` git network protocol David Lang
2005-04-29 21:15 ` Daniel Barkalow
2005-04-29 20:44 ` Mercurial 0.4b vs git patchbomb benchmark Tom Lord
2005-04-29 21:57 ` Denys Duchier
2005-04-29 20:29 ` Signed commit vulnerabilities? (was: Mercurial 0.4b vs git patchbomb benchmark) Kevin Smith
2005-04-29 21:45 ` Mercurial 0.4b vs git patchbomb benchmark Horst von Brand
2005-05-02 21:06 ` Tom Lord
2005-05-03 0:24 ` Kevin Smith
2005-05-02 16:15 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-04-29 16:37 ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-29 17:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-29 19:12 ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-29 19:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-29 20:23 ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-29 20:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-29 21:20 ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-29 16:46 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-04-29 20:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-04-29 22:30 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-04-29 22:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-04-29 20:30 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-04-29 20:39 ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-30 2:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-04-30 15:20 ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-30 16:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-05-02 15:49 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-02 16:14 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-05-03 17:40 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-04 2:10 ` Mercurial 0.4b vs git patchbomb benchmark (/usr/bin/env again) David A. Wheeler
2005-05-02 16:17 ` Mercurial 0.4b vs git patchbomb benchmark Andrea Arcangeli
2005-05-02 16:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-02 17:18 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-05-02 17:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-02 18:17 ` Edgar Toernig
2005-05-02 20:54 ` Sam Ravnborg
2005-05-02 17:20 ` Ryan Anderson
2005-05-02 17:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-02 21:17 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-05-03 17:43 ` Bill Davidsen
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-04-30 14:44 Adam J. Richter
2005-04-30 16:06 ` Matt Mackall
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2005-05-03 1:16 ` Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-05-03 1:29 ` Matt Mackall
2005-05-03 16:22 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-03 17:14 ` Rene Scharfe
2005-05-04 17:51 ` Bill Davidsen
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