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From: Jon Forrest <nobozo@gmail.com>
To: Rodrigo Campos <rodrigo@sdfg.com.ar>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] A Change to Commit IDs Too Ridiculous to Consider?
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 12:57:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c0af7511-a5d5-29bb-d279-66b6c3e0519c@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160724185132.GN25141@sdfg.com.ar>



On 7/24/2016 11:51 AM, Rodrigo Campos wrote:
> And what is the problem with that, if you are doing it with instructional
> purposes? Let's assume that this helps and not confuses later when the commits
> *do* change. What is the problem you face?

A lot of instructional material contains stuff like "Do [xxx] and you'll
see [zzz]. If you don't then something went wrong so try to figure out
what happened and do it again."

Git, as it stands, for good reason doesn't allow this approach.

I don't think a Git beginner, when using a version of Git that somehow
works the way I proposed, will be confused. The fact that performing the
same steps results in the same commit IDs won't be something that
they'll care about or even notice. The material can include a callout
mentioning the difference between "real" Git and "learners" Git.

> I mean, for some examples you can use HEAD, HEAD^, HEAD~4, etc. and that always
> works, no matter the commit id.

This will work in some cases, but should come later in a Git book.
But, in many cases using relative commit IDs, rather than absolute,
will be less clear (I believe).

> In which cases do you want/need the commit ids to be equal?
> Can you be more specific?

Sure. Take a look at the 2nd or 3rd chapter of Pro Git Reedited, 2nd
Edition (or just Pro Git 2nd Edition - it doesn't matter). You see
lots of output showing 'git commit' commands and the commit IDs that
result. I suspect you'd see the same in almost any book about Git.

Jon

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-24 19:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-24 18:12 [RFC] A Change to Commit IDs Too Ridiculous to Consider? Jon Forrest
2016-07-24 18:46 ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-24 19:20   ` Jon Forrest
2016-07-24 20:42     ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-25  3:56       ` Jon Forrest
2016-07-24 18:51 ` Rodrigo Campos
2016-07-24 19:57   ` Jon Forrest [this message]
2016-07-25 15:03     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-25 17:11       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-26 14:26     ` Philip Oakley

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