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From: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Scott Bauersfeld via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Scott Bauersfeld <sbauersfeld@g.ucla.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] index-pack, unpack-objects: increase input buffer from 4 KiB to 128 KiB
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2026 08:36:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c19a0e29-1218-4239-a362-df514153b5ff@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqldeb9w8e.fsf@gitster.g>

On 4/25/2026 6:21 AM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> "Scott Bauersfeld via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> From: Scott Bauersfeld <sbauersfeld@g.ucla.edu>
>>
>> On FUSE-backed filesystems every write(2) is a synchronous round
>> trip through the FUSE protocol (userspace -> kernel -> userspace ->
>> back), so the 4 KiB buffer turns a clone into many unnecessary tiny
>> writes with noticeable latency overhead.
>>
>> Increase the buffer from 4 KiB to 128 KiB, matching the default
>> already used by the hashfile layer in csum-file.c.
> 
> Quite sensible reasoning presented very nicely.
> 
> It may probably be a #leftoverbit but these three instances of (128
> * 1024) may want to have a common symbolic constant, like
> 
>     #define DEFAULT_IOBUFFER_SIZE_IN_BYTES (128 * 1024)
> 
> in a bit more central header file.  Especially for the one in
> csum-file.c where there is no symbolic constant used for that
> purpose.

I also had this thought. Would environment.h be the best place? 
>> Testing with strace on HTTPS clones of git/git (~296 MB pack, 5 runs
>> per variant, isolated builds from the same v2.54.0 source) shows:
>>
>>   index-pack pack file writes: 72,465 -> 24,943 avg (66% reduction)
>>   total write() syscalls:     310,192 -> 259,530 avg (17% reduction)
>>   writes of exactly 4096 bytes: ~40,077 -> 0 (eliminated)
> 
> Hmph, I would have expected more like (1 - 4/128) ~ 97% reduction.
> The difference between that and 66% is coming from where?  There are
> inherently short writes that do not utilize the new larger buffer
> beyond 4kB?  If so, another number of interest might be the number
> of writes smaller than 4096 bytes, perhaps?
 
One way to reword what you're asking is to measure "number of writes
not using the whole buffer" which is basically going to be "the
number of flush events from the application layer". Every time the
application intends to flush, the current buffer is likely to not
be exactly full. I would expect this number to not change between
implementations in real experiments.

The improvement here comes from the reduced number of flushes due
to buffer limits. I see that this can be measured in the number of
system-level events, but what impact does this have on the end-to-
end time of 'git index-pack' or 'git unpack-objects'? Is there a
t/perf/ test that can demonstrate this improvement for a variety
of real repos using GIT_PERF_REPO?

Thanks,
-Stolee


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-27 12:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-24 19:14 [PATCH] index-pack, unpack-objects: increase input buffer from 4 KiB to 128 KiB Scott Bauersfeld via GitGitGadget
2026-04-25 10:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-04-27 12:36   ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2026-04-28  1:46     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-04-28  2:09       ` Jeff King
2026-04-27 16:08 ` [PATCH v2] " Scott Bauersfeld via GitGitGadget
2026-04-27 17:23   ` Derrick Stolee
2026-04-27 19:26   ` [PATCH v3] " Scott Bauersfeld via GitGitGadget
2026-04-27 20:12     ` Derrick Stolee
2026-04-28  1:47       ` Junio C Hamano
2026-04-28 14:47     ` [PATCH v4] " Scott Bauersfeld via GitGitGadget
2026-05-12  5:51       ` Junio C Hamano

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