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From: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
To: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>, Shaun Case <warmsocks@gmail.com>
Cc: Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Possible regression for sparse-checkout in git 2.27.0
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2020 11:36:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c1f9d76a-bf39-8508-1f4f-b34be77450a0@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABPp-BGvc3GZfFuiXaqDk6391ZexQ7D3x9gr5JK6-L+rDQQ4sg@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/3/2020 12:37 AM, Elijah Newren wrote:
> I think it'd be more natural to run

>   git clone --filter=blob:none --sparse
> https://github.com/r-spacex/launch-timeline.git

> in place of the combination of

>   git clone --filter=blob:none --no-checkout
> https://github.com/r-spacex/launch-timeline.git
>   git sparse-checkout init --cone

> since the --sparse flag was added just for this kind of case -- to do
> a clone but start with only a few things checked out.  It's easier, is
> the route we're moving towards, and as a bonus also happens to work.

Just one warning: the --sparse option in "git clone" does not currently
enable core.sparseCheckoutCone, so running "git sparse-checkout init --cone"
afterwards is a good idea, or else your "git sparse-checkout (set|add)"
commands will not behave the way you expect.

(I think that I will propose a change in behavior to make it do so during
this release cycle.)

> A bit of a side note, or a few of them, but this command of yours is broken:
>   git sparse-checkout set README.md
> because --cone mode means you are specifying *directories* that should
> be checked out.  Currently, this gives no error, it instead silently
> drops you back to non-cone mode, which seems bad to me.
> sparse-checkout should provide some kind of error -- or at very least
> a warning -- when you make that mistake.
 
> Now let's talk about the commit in question that changed behavior
> here.  The point of sparse-checkout is never to switch branches or
> checkout new commits; all it does is update which paths are in the
> current working directory.  A related point to this is it should never
> add or remove entries from the index and shouldn't change any hashes
> of files in the index.  It used to violate this, at first via an
> implementation that was literally invoking `git read-tree -mu HEAD` in
> a subprocess, and then later using internal code equivalent to
> invoking that command in a subprocess.  But by violating the
> leave-index-entries-alone mandate, it left folks who were in the
> middle of a rebase and wanted to update their sparse-checkout to
> include some more directories in their working tree in a precarious
> spot -- if they didn't update, then they didn't have the files
> necessary to build, and if they did forcibly update via `git read-tree
> -mu HEAD` then their staged changes would all get wiped out.  I spent
> some quality time helping users recover their files and teaching them
> about the git storage model.
> 
> So that brings us back to your original question.  When you said
> --no-checkout, it means that there is no commit checked out and the
> index is empty.  update_sparsity() is correctly toggling the
> SKIP_WORKTREE bits for the existing index entries that don't match the
> sparsity patterns, and it is correctly calling check_updates().
> check_updates() is correctly checking for files currently in the index
> which have toggled to being needed in the current worktree so that it
> can issue downloads related to promisor packs.  The problem is just
> that there aren't any index entries to begin with, so there are no
> SKIP_WORKTREE bits to update, and thus no files that need to be
> downloaded.
> 
> It seems a bit risky to make sparse-checkout start doing
> checkout/switch behavior and adding entries to the index.  There's a
> couple ways forward.  One, we could decide this is a special edge or
> corner case where we allow it: if the index is completely empty, then
> there's no data to lose and thus we could make `git sparse-checkout
> init [--cone]` in that one case use the old 'read-tree -mu HEAD'
> logic.  Alternatively, we could just require users to run 'git reset
> --hard' at the end of your script.
> 
> Stolee: Thoughts?

I agree that using "--sparse" instead of "--no-checkout" is the
best way forward for now, but I'll classify that as a workaround
and not necessarily the end of the conversation.

In general, the commit in question is doing something extremely
valuable for common situations, like rebase that you mention.
I also think that this change in behavior is warranted by the
clear warning placed at the top of the docs [1]:

	THIS COMMAND IS EXPERIMENTAL. ITS BEHAVIOR, AND THE
	BEHAVIOR OF OTHER COMMANDS IN THE PRESENCE OF SPARSE-
	CHECKOUTS, WILL LIKELY CHANGE IN THE FUTURE.

[1] https://git-scm.com/docs/git-sparse-checkout#_description

Of course, that's just us covering our butts as we push the
feature forward. It doesn't stop users (especially those that
are bravely using the feature) from feeling pain that might
be avoidable.

To wrap up, it's unfortunate that the behavior changed. If it
is easy to detect and handle this special case, then it _may_
be worth doing to avoid disrupting users. Elijah: could you
spend at most an hour trying to see how difficult this would be?

Thanks,
-Stolee

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-03 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-03  1:08 Possible regression for sparse-checkout in git 2.27.0 Shaun Case
2020-06-03  4:37 ` Elijah Newren
2020-06-03 15:36   ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2020-06-04  7:27     ` Elijah Newren
2020-06-04 20:50       ` Shaun Case
2020-06-05  0:32         ` Derrick Stolee
2020-06-05  0:56           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-05 13:07             ` Derrick Stolee

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