From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail.manjaro.org (mail.manjaro.org [116.203.91.91]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28F7F7C6CA for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2024 17:50:02 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=116.203.91.91 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1706809804; cv=none; b=f0zf0SHfesIYn4dd2taTSAfX5vr9vwU5uWt+/hkzwjX8BqHJ7Q8gc1AqYTY1sEI29DqhB4QBw/aZvnkipsWRpLrumFfqRsHXgSTPLNyVy9KaURwQvUdM7knbR/tyMZgW+Gd6DXepWjWqnuc0TgsO0j/RbOw+tI5zXfC/k+R/yp4= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1706809804; c=relaxed/simple; bh=wogAKccdrvoz9GeowoQTHdLOJbmHqhqV07XfJmk9dgA=; h=MIME-Version:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: Message-ID:Content-Type; b=maOOByyunxGgHaZ7V+tR9L286cXd7ATgrOB3/9+slXFK9CCDiQ6XkS6fQ7JH22SYenA10EZsAjjUyrFg/WPr6C6cW+nVAka8F2xhHf+Q7403hBaNy95eEAmZE5TLvZOWLYeV1RxpOmmfc4QQRj5llx+TPrUZu9XK7NERoNZ42ko= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=manjaro.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=manjaro.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=manjaro.org header.i=@manjaro.org header.b=sFuwrI8z; arc=none smtp.client-ip=116.203.91.91 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=manjaro.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=manjaro.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=manjaro.org header.i=@manjaro.org header.b="sFuwrI8z" Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=manjaro.org; s=2021; t=1706809798; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=mYA1zD8JQf+k5rfHSmuRXXveGVP4aOdhvorGzaUsW7s=; b=sFuwrI8zqJakjp2xphPtzApWZ+8yvK537ODhADHt89AWx+AQscguClgKrvbiriC8q6gfgV lt1/1ffG0+SxbrJMa5enl3bV30uK7UPYqoPkXFr+wEys2Wcaf5kI5Smm4YBjhhf7C5eRFp GFheiXoKwRe+xWCTglxdQcAmaRATgN/289JlALyEwAwSDcM0lHqvuh4XJa7aasNKkxF7Rm eGXMNFlJP9cgudZRzGuijiPicgM/TsgQCA829GTnLYtEE5jn8qmg4/JCQIVrt+WSi5Y/uQ 0RaUAmXv89yv2Kg+9gZVJcbdC1Tr77F7XmW/Xw7Wn3a7ki0+ErK1tHK+FG9XvQ== Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2024 18:49:58 +0100 From: Dragan Simic To: Hans Meiser Cc: Konstantin Ryabitsev , git@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Migrate away from vger to GitHub or (on-premise) GitLab? In-Reply-To: References: <20240201-primitive-aardwark-of-contentment-aaabb9@lemur> Message-ID: X-Sender: dsimic@manjaro.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Authentication-Results: ORIGINATING; auth=pass smtp.auth=dsimic@manjaro.org smtp.mailfrom=dsimic@manjaro.org On 2024-02-01 18:28, Hans Meiser wrote: > Thank you for enlightening me and elaborating on all of these very > important facts! > > Just to make sure: So "git" is considered part of the kernel? And the > "git documentation" is considered part of the kernel, too? Of course it isn't. > Shouldn't these topics be separated then into separate repositories, > particularly the git documentation? > > For people like me, who are contributing to dozens of documentations > on GitHub (and GitLab) … We don't focus on the kernel alone. We > receive dozens of important technical, business and financially > important e-mails from different sources day by day. So, people like > me need some modern, common channels/tools for contributing. (If > contribution is considered helpful and valuable by the kernel team at > all.) Could you, please, clarify what kind of git documentation are you referring to? Are you having git man pages in mind? > With todays platforms, issues can be created by e-mail and e-mails > will be received with each issue update. It's even possible to upload > patches via REST services. No web browser required. So this would keep > mailing list users acquainted to their habit. > > Setting up a local (on-premise) GitLab or Azure DevOps server for > long-term use should not be impossible. I'm running each of these > myself. Once installed on-premise, the installation wouldn't be bound > to any continuous support. All it needs is a provider for keeping the > server machine running. Quite frankly, I think you've missed some important points from the Konstantin's message. To sum it up a bit, not having continuous support is simply unacceptable for any kind of a long-term project.