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From: Mark Lodato <lodatom@gmail.com>
To: Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Sverre Rabbelier <srabbelier@gmail.com>,
	Git List <git@vger.kernel.org>, Ron1 <ron1@flownet.com>,
	Jacob Helwig <jacob.helwig@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: master^ is not a local branch -- huh?!?
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 00:53:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ca433831001292153idee3677gf9761d9726dca135@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1001292305500.1681@xanadu.home>

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net> wrote:
> First, I'm afraid that "Checking out commit 'foobar'" might be confusing
> as this may happen through either a remote branch, a tag, or any random
> commit.  It seems to me that "Checking out 'v2.5'" is less confusing
> than "Checking out commit 'v2.5'".  But that's a minor detail and
> probably a personal preference.

I'm fine with "Checking out 'v2.5'".

> I consider that starting the explanation paragraph with " any commits
> you make will be lost" is even more unfriendly, and misleading.  That is
> sure to scare people needlessly.

See wording below.

> I think your wording is just too far on the negative side, and makes Git
> look like an even more difficult tool than it actually is.  And you help
> no one by stating things that are not exactly true even if the truth
> implies that you need to know what you're doing.

What is not true?  Sure, they're not really "lost", but there's no
concise yet fully correct way to say the full truth.  Would you prefer
"discarded"?

> The _whole_ and only
> point of a detached HEAD is actually to be able to make commits even
> without having to create a new branch first.

Wrong.  I have never (purposefully) made a commit on a detached HEAD,
yet I use a detached HEAD all the time.  Why?  Because I checkout a
particular commit to look at code at a given location.  For example, I
recently ran "git checkout v1.6.6.1".  I did not intend to make any
commits on this; I just wanted to look at and compile code at a
particular version.  I think most users do the same thing.  The reason
for the warning is that folks make a mistake of trying to commit
without first switching back to (or creating) a branch.


Anyway, how about the following message, which is more in line with
Junio's last version?

-- >8 -- not a patch -- >8 --
Checking out 'master^0'.

This is not a local branch head, so you are in a 'detached HEAD' state.
If you only plan to look at files, this is fine.  However, any commits you
make will not update a branch, and may be discarded when you check out
another branch or commit.

If you want to create a new branch to retain commits you create, you may
do so (now or later) by using -b with the checkout command again. Example:

 git checkout -b <new_branch_name>

HEAD is now at a9d7c95... Merge branch 'maint'
-- 8< -- not a patch -- 8< --

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-01-30  5:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-29 20:20 master^ is not a local branch -- huh?!? Ron1
2010-01-29 20:27 ` Jacob Helwig
2010-01-29 20:35   ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-29 20:38     ` Jacob Helwig
2010-01-29 20:48     ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 20:56       ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-29 21:09         ` [PATCH] checkout: warn about 'branch name' rather than 'local branch' Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-29 21:19           ` [PATCH] checkout: Fix test for s/local branch/branch name/ change Jacob Helwig
2010-01-29 21:20             ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-29 21:40           ` [PATCH] checkout: warn about 'branch name' rather than 'local branch' Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-29 21:50             ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 21:42           ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 21:45             ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-29 21:35         ` master^ is not a local branch -- huh?!? Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 21:20       ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-29 21:21         ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-29 21:29           ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-29 21:32             ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-29 21:51               ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-29 21:58                 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 22:00                   ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-29 22:34                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-29 22:39                     ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 22:46                       ` Jacob Helwig
2010-01-29 23:43                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30  0:14                         ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30  0:18                           ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-30  0:29                             ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30  0:35                               ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-30  0:38                               ` Michael Witten
2010-01-30  0:39                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30  1:01                               ` Mark Lodato
2010-01-30  1:22                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30  2:38                                   ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30  2:59                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30  3:26                                       ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30  4:03                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30  5:06                                           ` Jay Soffian
2010-01-30  5:09                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30  4:52                                       ` Jay Soffian
2010-01-30  5:15                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30  5:21                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30  6:25                                             ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30 18:25                                               ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30  5:45                                           ` Jay Soffian
2010-01-30  5:18                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30  6:23                                         ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30  2:40                                   ` Mark Lodato
2010-01-30  3:11                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30  3:59                                       ` Mark Lodato
2010-01-30  4:39                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30  5:05                                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30  5:11                                             ` Jay Soffian
2010-01-30  5:25                                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-30  5:53                                           ` Mark Lodato [this message]
2010-01-30  6:03                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30  8:59                 ` Jeff King
2010-01-30 18:40                   ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 23:16               ` A Large Angry SCM
2010-01-29 21:49         ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30  2:13         ` Johannes Schindelin
2010-01-30  3:15           ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-01-29 20:35   ` Johannes Schindelin
2010-01-29 21:16     ` Ron1
2010-01-29 21:25       ` Jacob Helwig
2010-01-29 21:43         ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 21:59           ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 22:18             ` Ron Garret
2010-01-31  7:32     ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 20:32 ` Octavio Alvarez
2010-01-29 21:34   ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 22:32     ` Octavio Alvarez
2010-01-29 22:47       ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 23:05         ` Octavio Alvarez
2010-01-29 23:12         ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 23:30           ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 23:28         ` Julian Phillips
2010-01-30  0:14           ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30  0:18             ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30 19:02               ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30 19:24                 ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 20:36 ` Scott R. Godin
2010-01-29 21:24   ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 21:28     ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-01-29 21:40       ` Ron Garret
2010-01-29 21:54       ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-29 22:12         ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30  0:33           ` Michael Witten
2010-01-30  3:06             ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30  6:16               ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30  6:45                 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30  7:31                   ` Ron Garret
2010-01-30  8:02                     ` Junio C Hamano
2010-01-30  8:56                       ` Ron Garret
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-02-01 11:52 Steve Diver
2010-02-01 17:38 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-02-01 17:58   ` Sergei Organov
2010-02-01 22:52     ` Ron Garret
2010-02-01 23:01       ` Petr Baudis
2010-02-01 23:25       ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-02-01 23:37       ` Junio C Hamano
2010-02-01 23:56         ` Ron Garret
2010-02-02  0:15           ` Petr Baudis
2010-02-02  0:45             ` Ron Garret
2010-02-02  0:53               ` Junio C Hamano
2010-02-02  1:12                 ` Ron Garret
2010-02-02 19:19                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-02-02 22:04                     ` Ron Garret
2010-02-03 18:27                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-02-02  4:05               ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-02-02  5:23                 ` Ron Garret
2010-02-02  5:43                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-02-02 21:07                   ` tytso
2010-02-02  0:26           ` Junio C Hamano
2010-02-02  0:21       ` Junio C Hamano
2010-02-01 18:12   ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-02-01 18:27     ` Jay Soffian
2010-02-01 22:34     ` Steve Diver

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