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From: Giuseppe Bilotta <giuseppe.bilotta@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 5/6] gitweb: last-modified time should be commiter, not  author
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 12:14:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cb7bb73a0902060314u4741528bs196a43d45ff7f283@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200902050038.57999.jnareb@gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 12:38 AM, Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jan 2009, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
>
>> The last-modified time header added by RSS to increase cache hits from
>> readers should be set to the date the repository was last modified. The
>> author time in this respect is not a good guess because the last commit
>> might come from a oldish patch.
>>
>> Use the committer time for the last-modified header to ensure a more
>> correct guess of the last time the repository was modified.
>
> First, changing %latest_date from author time to committer time affects
> not only Last-Modified HTTP header, but (after this series) also
> various "publication dates" in the feed contents.  But I think that for
> all those committer time is better approximation of publication date
> and last change date than author time.
>
> Second, author time reflects when change (commit) was made, according
> to authors (perhaps skewed) clock.  Committer time reflects when given
> commit (version of a commit) was entered into repository, or to be more
> exact into some clone of given project.  But there is also an issue of
> when changes got into given instance of repository (given clone): that
> I guess might be found by stat-ing HEAD (if it arrived by commit),
> FETCH_HEAD (if it arrived by fetch or pull) and ??? (if it arrived by
> push)... err... it looks like it wouldn't work in most common case,
> sorry, unless we want to stat all refs and packed-refs file. But while
> this date might be better for Last-Modified, I'm not sure if it is good
> at all for publication date.
>
> So committer time is better than author time, and looks like good
> middle ground.

Oops should have finished reading your comments before my previous
reply. The solution would be to introduce a way to determine robustly
when a branch was last _physically_ updated. Checking the
corresponding entry in refs/ would work for non-packed refs, and maybe
one would hope that if the ref got packed, it means it hasn't updated
in a long time ... but I'm not enough of an expert on git's internal
to really know about this. Suggestions?


-- 
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-06 11:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-26 11:50 [PATCHv2 0/6] gitweb: feed metadata enhancements Giuseppe Bilotta
2009-01-26 11:50 ` [PATCHv2 1/6] gitweb: channel image in rss feed Giuseppe Bilotta
2009-01-26 11:50   ` [PATCHv2 2/6] gitweb: feed generator metadata Giuseppe Bilotta
2009-01-26 11:50     ` [PATCHv2 3/6] gitweb: rss feed managingEditor Giuseppe Bilotta
2009-01-26 11:50       ` [PATCHv2 4/6] gitweb: rss channel date Giuseppe Bilotta
2009-01-26 11:50         ` [PATCHv2 5/6] gitweb: last-modified time should be commiter, not author Giuseppe Bilotta
2009-01-26 11:50           ` [PATCHv2 6/6] gitweb: check if-modified-since for feeds Giuseppe Bilotta
2009-02-05  2:03             ` Jakub Narebski
2009-02-06 11:19               ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2009-02-04 23:38           ` [PATCHv2 5/6] gitweb: last-modified time should be commiter, not author Jakub Narebski
2009-02-06 11:14             ` Giuseppe Bilotta [this message]
2009-02-06 21:12               ` Jakub Narebski
2009-02-06 23:00                 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2009-02-11  3:10                   ` Deskin Miller
2009-02-11  9:02                     ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2009-02-11  9:18                       ` Jakub Narebski
2009-02-11  9:54                         ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2009-02-12  4:50                           ` Deskin Miller
2009-02-12  9:07                           ` Jakub Narebski
2009-02-12  9:52                             ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2009-02-12 10:11                               ` Jakub Narebski
2009-02-12 11:23                                 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2009-02-04 23:24         ` [PATCHv2 4/6] gitweb: rss channel date Jakub Narebski
2009-02-06 11:10           ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2009-02-04 23:19       ` [PATCHv2 3/6] gitweb: rss feed managingEditor Jakub Narebski
2009-02-06 11:03         ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2009-02-04 23:15     ` [PATCHv2 2/6] gitweb: feed generator metadata Jakub Narebski
2009-02-06 11:01       ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2009-02-06 11:21         ` Jakub Narebski
2009-02-04 22:56   ` [PATCHv2 1/6] gitweb: channel image in rss feed Jakub Narebski
2009-02-06 10:55     ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2009-01-28 20:58 ` [PATCHv2 0/6] gitweb: feed metadata enhancements Junio C Hamano
2009-01-28 21:48   ` Jakub Narebski
2009-01-28 21:57   ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2009-01-28 22:03     ` Junio C Hamano
2009-02-06 22:42 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-02-07  0:24   ` Junio C Hamano

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