From: Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org>
To: rsbecker@nexbridge.com
Cc: 'Randall Becker' <randall.becker@nexbridge.ca>,
'Johannes Schindelin' <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
"'Randall S. Becker'" <the.n.e.key@gmail.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] Teach git version --build-options about libcurl
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 23:52:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cd0f4bee77c6afbc5deda43b339d22fe@manjaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <036d01dac67b$a6457da0$f2d078e0$@nexbridge.com>
On 2024-06-24 23:15, rsbecker@nexbridge.com wrote:
> On Monday, June 24, 2024 1:09 PM, Dragan Simic wrote:
>> On 2024-06-24 16:33, Randall Becker wrote:
>>> On Monday, June 24, 2024 10:13 AM, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
>>>> I am not sure that this is the most helpful information Git can
>>>> provide:
>>>> It reports the version against which Git was _compiled_, whereas the
>>>> version it is _running against_ might be quite different.
>>>>
>>>> Wouldn't calling `curl_version()` make more sense here?
>>>
>>> I think the more important information is the build used. My
>>> reasoning
>>> is that one can call run curl --version to see the current curl
>>> install. However, different versions of curl have potential API
>>> changes - same argument with OpenSSL. What initiated this for me (the
>>> use case) started with a customer who incorrectly installed a git
>>> build for OpenSSL 3.2 (and its libcurl friend). Git would then get a
>>> compatibility issue when attempting to use either library. The
>>> customer did not know (!) they had the git for OpenSSL 3.2 version
>>> and
>>> I had no way to determine which one they had without seeing their
>>> path
>>> - hard in an email support situation. Having git version
>>> --build-options report what was used for the build *at a
>>> compatibility
>>> level* would have easily shown that the available library (after
>>> running openssl version or curl --version) reported different values.
>>> Otherwise, we are back to guessing what they installed. The goal is
>>> to
>>> compare what git expects with what git has available. The above
>>> series
>>> makes this comparative information available.
>>
>> How about announcing both versions of the library if they differ, and
>> only
> one
>> version if they're the same? We're building this to serve as a way
>> for
> debugging
>> various issues, having that information available could only be
>> helpful.
>
> I don't have a huge problem with that except it will significantly
> decrease
> performance. We do not currently have to load libcurl/openssl to obtain
> the
> build version (it is the --build-options flag), so adding additional
> load on
> this command is not really what the series is about. Doing this
> run-time
> check might be something someone else may want to take on separately,
> but
> from a support use-case standpoint, it should be covered as is. Doing a
> comparison is a separate use case.
Yes, the additional load is actually a bit concerning. Perhaps we could
wrap the current series up as-is and leave the possible improvements to
the follow-up patches?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-24 21:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-21 18:09 [PATCH v2 0/2] Teach git version --build-options about zlib+libcurl Randall S. Becker
2024-06-21 18:09 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] Teach git version --build-options about libcurl Randall S. Becker
2024-06-24 14:13 ` Johannes Schindelin
2024-06-24 14:33 ` Randall Becker
2024-06-24 17:08 ` Dragan Simic
2024-06-24 21:15 ` rsbecker
2024-06-24 21:52 ` Dragan Simic [this message]
2024-06-24 21:56 ` Randall Becker
2024-07-24 10:51 ` Johannes Schindelin
2024-06-24 15:29 ` Jeff King
2024-06-24 16:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-24 23:55 ` Jeff King
2024-06-25 0:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-24 10:48 ` Johannes Schindelin
2024-07-24 20:55 ` Jeff King
2024-07-24 22:17 ` Johannes Schindelin
2024-07-25 6:52 ` Jeff King
2024-07-25 15:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-26 0:41 ` Jeff King
2024-06-21 18:09 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] Teach git version --build-options about zlib versions Randall S. Becker
2024-06-24 14:15 ` Johannes Schindelin
2024-06-24 14:38 ` Randall Becker
2024-07-24 11:02 ` Johannes Schindelin
2024-07-24 13:36 ` Randall Becker
2024-07-24 16:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-07-24 16:33 ` rsbecker
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