From: Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org>
To: phillip.wood@dunelm.org.uk
Cc: "Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>, "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
"Rubén Justo" <rjusto@gmail.com>,
"Git List" <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/6] use the pager in 'add -p'
Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2024 19:20:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d092f5bb1d3bc7b7a821000a3cad8a1e@manjaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a2a59f5e-fd55-41d3-8472-b99256e1f428@gmail.com>
Hello Phillip,
On 2024-06-09 16:29, phillip.wood123@gmail.com wrote:
> On 08/06/2024 06:54, Dragan Simic wrote:
>> On 2024-06-05 15:21, Phillip Wood wrote:
>>> On 05/06/2024 10:09, Jeff King wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Jun 04, 2024 at 08:32:04AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Given that the main use case for "|" is for human viewing through a
>>>> pager, I think the colorful, filtered version meant for users is the
>>>> best default. And then the "bare" version can come from an alternate
>>>> command or a knob.
>>>
>>> I think that's a very good point. It is hard to see what "|" can be
>>> used for other than viewing the hunk as (a) git does not read the
>>> output so it cannot be used to filter or edit the hunk that is
>>> applied
>>> and (b) we pass an isolated hunk so the post-image offset in the hunk
>>> header is likely to be wrong and there is no indication as to which
>>> file it comes from so the program being run cannot apply the hunk
>>> itself. Having the escape codes does make it harder to filter the
>>> hunk. For example to just look at the post-image as one needs to do
>>> something like
>>>
>>> grep '^[^-+ @]*[+ @]'
>>>
>>> instead of just using '^[+ @]' as the pattern but the bonus is that
>>> the output is colored.
>>
>> Agreed, but as I already explained, [1] only when using the bare "|"
>> command. When "|xyz" is used instead, the version of the hunk with
>> no coloring escape sequences should be piped to xyz.
>
> Having read the message you referenced I'm struggling to understand
> the use-case for stripping escape codes - what do you want to do with
> the hunk that means you want to remove the color?
Let me recap, please. Basically, when an output of some command is
piped into another command, e.g. by running "grep -r abc . | grep def",
the command that produces the piped output doesn't put the coloring
escape codes into the produced output, because it's unknown can the
command that receives it handle those escape codes properly. That's
become some kind of de facto standard embodied into the "--color=auto"
command-line option for various utilities.
In the example above, one can have "grep -n --color=auto" defined as
their alias for "grep", which is what I use, and the "grep -r abc"
produces the output with no coloring escape sequences, which gets
piped into "grep def" that does produce coloring escape codes, because
its output goes to the terminal emulator, which is expected to handle
those escape codes properly.
In our use case, Git becomes what produces a hunk as the output that
gets piped into some program "xyz" by receiving "|xyz" as the command
while "git add -p" is executed, but it isn't known can "xyz" handle
the coloring escape sequences properly, so they should not be included
in the piped output, i.e. in the produced hunk.
As discussed later, [2] we could introduce ">xyz" as another command
for "git add -p", so receiving ">xyz" from the user would pipe the
hunk to "xyz" with the coloring escape sequences included, because
the user already knows that "xyz" can handle them. Separating this
into two commands is a safe approach.
I hope this makes the whole thing more clear.
[1]
https://lore.kernel.org/git/844704794168f9fcb85c75014c84cde0@manjaro.org/
[2]
https://lore.kernel.org/git/7937845d7cb7ae0179c4922ed154c5c7@manjaro.org/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-09 17:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-19 7:06 [PATCH 0/5] use the pager in 'add -p' Rubén Justo
2024-05-19 7:10 ` [PATCH 1/5] add-patch: test for 'p' command Rubén Justo
2024-05-19 7:12 ` [PATCH 2/5] pager: do not close fd 2 unnecessarily Rubén Justo
2024-05-20 19:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-20 22:33 ` Rubén Justo
2024-05-21 20:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-21 21:35 ` Rubén Justo
2024-05-21 22:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-22 17:19 ` Rubén Justo
2024-05-22 17:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-26 6:48 ` Rubén Justo
2024-05-26 21:26 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-19 7:13 ` [PATCH 3/5] pager: introduce wait_for_pager Rubén Justo
2024-05-19 7:14 ` [PATCH 4/5] test-terminal: introduce --no-stdin-pty Rubén Justo
2024-05-19 7:14 ` [PATCH 5/5] add-patch: render hunks through the pager Rubén Justo
2024-05-20 19:30 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-20 19:45 ` Dragan Simic
2024-05-20 22:35 ` Rubén Justo
2024-05-20 23:54 ` Dragan Simic
2024-05-21 19:56 ` Rubén Justo
2024-05-21 7:07 ` Jeff King
2024-05-21 19:59 ` Rubén Justo
2024-05-23 9:06 ` Jeff King
2024-05-23 14:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-23 14:18 ` Dragan Simic
2024-05-23 23:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-23 23:28 ` Dragan Simic
2024-05-23 23:43 ` Dragan Simic
2024-05-23 23:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-23 23:57 ` Dragan Simic
2024-05-25 4:54 ` Jeff King
2024-05-23 22:25 ` Rubén Justo
2024-05-23 23:03 ` Dragan Simic
2024-05-20 22:47 ` Rubén Justo
2024-05-20 23:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-20 23:27 ` Rubén Justo
2024-05-21 20:49 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] use the pager in 'add -p' Rubén Justo
2024-05-21 20:51 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] add-patch: test for 'p' command Rubén Justo
2024-05-21 20:52 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] pager: do not close fd 2 unnecessarily Rubén Justo
2024-05-21 20:52 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] pager: introduce wait_for_pager Rubén Justo
2024-05-21 20:52 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] test-terminal: introduce --no-stdin-pty Rubén Justo
2024-05-21 20:52 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] add-patch: render hunks through the pager Rubén Justo
2024-05-22 8:09 ` Dragan Simic
2024-05-22 18:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-22 21:23 ` Rubén Justo
2024-05-22 21:27 ` Dragan Simic
2024-06-02 15:38 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] use the pager in 'add -p' Rubén Justo
2024-06-02 15:42 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] add-patch: test for 'p' command Rubén Justo
2024-06-02 15:42 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] pager: do not close fd 2 unnecessarily Rubén Justo
2024-06-02 15:43 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] pager: introduce wait_for_pager Rubén Justo
2024-06-02 15:43 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] pager: introduce setup_custom_pager Rubén Justo
2024-06-02 15:43 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] test-terminal: introduce --no-stdin-pty Rubén Justo
2024-06-02 15:44 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] add-patch: introduce the command '|' Rubén Justo
2024-06-02 16:36 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] use the pager in 'add -p' Junio C Hamano
2024-06-02 17:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-02 17:33 ` Rubén Justo
2024-06-02 17:13 ` Rubén Justo
2024-06-02 17:46 ` Dragan Simic
2024-06-03 9:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 10:21 ` Dragan Simic
2024-06-03 15:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04 17:34 ` Dragan Simic
2024-06-02 17:36 ` Dragan Simic
2024-06-03 16:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04 17:41 ` Dragan Simic
2024-06-04 17:42 ` Dragan Simic
2024-06-03 20:19 ` Rubén Justo
2024-06-04 18:13 ` Dragan Simic
2024-06-03 20:35 ` [PATCH v4 " Rubén Justo
2024-06-03 20:38 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] add-patch: test for 'p' command Rubén Justo
2024-06-03 20:38 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] pager: do not close fd 2 unnecessarily Rubén Justo
2024-06-04 15:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 20:38 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] pager: introduce wait_for_pager Rubén Justo
2024-06-04 10:00 ` Phillip Wood
2024-06-04 16:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-05 22:03 ` Rubén Justo
2024-06-04 16:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 20:38 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] pager: introduce setup_custom_pager Rubén Justo
2024-06-04 16:43 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 20:38 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] test-terminal: introduce --no-stdin-pty Rubén Justo
2024-06-04 10:05 ` Phillip Wood
2024-06-04 10:33 ` Jeff King
2024-06-05 15:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-06 8:24 ` Jeff King
2024-06-05 22:50 ` Rubén Justo
2024-06-06 8:27 ` Jeff King
2024-06-09 7:26 ` Rubén Justo
2024-06-03 20:38 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] add-patch: introduce the command '|' Rubén Justo
2024-06-04 17:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04 20:05 ` Dragan Simic
2024-06-05 5:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04 10:17 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] use the pager in 'add -p' Jeff King
2024-06-04 15:32 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-05 9:09 ` Jeff King
2024-06-05 13:21 ` Phillip Wood
2024-06-08 5:54 ` Dragan Simic
2024-06-09 7:44 ` Rubén Justo
2024-06-09 7:57 ` Dragan Simic
2024-06-10 19:09 ` Rubén Justo
2024-06-10 21:02 ` Dragan Simic
2024-06-10 14:09 ` Phillip Wood
2024-06-10 16:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-10 19:14 ` Rubén Justo
2024-06-10 19:56 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-10 21:08 ` Dragan Simic
2024-06-10 19:28 ` Dragan Simic
2024-06-10 20:08 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-10 21:16 ` Dragan Simic
2024-06-09 14:29 ` phillip.wood123
2024-06-09 17:20 ` Dragan Simic [this message]
2024-06-10 8:27 ` Phillip Wood
2024-06-10 9:09 ` Dragan Simic
2024-06-05 17:24 ` Junio C Hamano
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