From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (lindbergh.monkeyblade.net [23.128.96.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA35C79C3 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2023 20:51:34 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=manjaro.org header.i=@manjaro.org header.b="EFBmaLE/" Received: from mail.manjaro.org (mail.manjaro.org [116.203.91.91]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F8039D for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2023 13:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=manjaro.org; s=2021; t=1698094291; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=WF7uf4Zp+0GA002AQsqeXdVOCYwZnKM0eww9LBMkZ68=; b=EFBmaLE/X0O+nq0c9vDR/gRbQAF0WYbFae1kFKTy41RCBydMpIYsy3zqDBMWZtpjIhLWNh bZeNFkt6jHzbQbW3zOLG+FY+pEgZgnvi4rD7eePWzI0C97bc5yap1OMuY0r77jZj1BkgeA MWV6kBnIV/C1SfP30coNF34pvATQSq3JKFxPJ4R4Yhp1kWptMu1ZHnhf+34xluSyTrI030 sjwkVkGKbfD0Cpq22owhreC7+MKnVJsBb4t0zbDZBoWAyxGNSveXGSW3pmc4FB5m/zaKGQ rRKo30p5da803e/NUUaUlYuA0uGA8yCsIMiOSEOQxrYE/fYY2n4Rkf7e6YLbtA== Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 22:51:31 +0200 From: Dragan Simic To: Oswald Buddenhagen Cc: Jacob Stopak , git@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] Introduce -t, --table for status/add commands In-Reply-To: References: <5fac8607a3c270e06fd610551d7403c7@manjaro.org> <58a6a25a7b2eb82c21d9b87143033cef@manjaro.org> Message-ID: X-Sender: dsimic@manjaro.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Authentication-Results: ORIGINATING; auth=pass smtp.auth=dsimic@manjaro.org smtp.mailfrom=dsimic@manjaro.org On 2023-10-23 22:19, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 12:29:12PM -0700, Jacob Stopak wrote: >> Those arrows showing how things move only really apply to "simulating" >> (dry runs) for specific commands like add, restore, rm, commit, stash, >> etc, so making the --table proposal a default status output would >> still >> miss those scenarios. >> > you're too focused on the status quo of your own tool. :-) > there is really nothing that would speak against the real commands > reporting what they just *actually did*. this would seem rather > helpful for noobs and other insecure users. > if one really wanted, "you can also use this with --dry-run" could be > part of the hint that would say how to turn off the extra verbosity > (or just the hint itself, if one likes the verbosity). The hint should be about how to turn the tables and verbosity on, not how to get rid of it. > one could even go one step further and put at least the destructive > commands into interactive/confirmation mode by default. but that's > probably a bridge too far, as it would be potentially habit-forming in > a bad way. > > regards