From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (lindbergh.monkeyblade.net [23.128.96.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D746A48 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2023 06:52:40 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=manjaro.org header.i=@manjaro.org header.b="MfaTTVdf" Received: from mail.manjaro.org (mail.manjaro.org [116.203.91.91]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C6E8112 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2023 23:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=manjaro.org; s=2021; t=1697957557; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=XukDMB439NBYH2JFHapGwHyxOzPFiaE/gwldWcTgHzA=; b=MfaTTVdfv73HaiHWMQXTgLJgiuQZg9KR8UPO2NjvHlXnCoRcw90ASbXHZZ4nUmDciOiWvp OAuzlx9HxHTb1b/xY28saRHaDjOhOUvtd6ul/waOg50YXSjb/1B9uK22q3ODJCdYtGIFOe jERI9kI3nnbRTNcLDMhEtYJfT9wMCEKUxyAzbihimZiZkTPCFBJt4E8OUcEGHQxuuTYj5j uYv0DcouOrD8d7Sk908RbTWtNiEOwBylYTDKNyNkWZAjkZauMxQPRBjO5PXTGyeUySni+O ka5xpRyaHhosW9uM/UiBiBIz7s6xb5swAaUuqO2dD4HlByIWStKpHA5vFIYSvw== Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2023 08:52:36 +0200 From: Dragan Simic To: Jacob Stopak Cc: Junio C Hamano , git@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] Introduce -t, --table for status/add commands In-Reply-To: References: <20231020183947.463882-1-jacob@initialcommit.io> Message-ID: X-Sender: dsimic@manjaro.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Authentication-Results: ORIGINATING; auth=pass smtp.auth=dsimic@manjaro.org smtp.mailfrom=dsimic@manjaro.org On 2023-10-22 08:04, Jacob Stopak wrote: > On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 04:28:19PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: >> >> You are not alone in feeling the impedance mismatch between the >> intended audience the patch(es) try to help (pointy-clicky GUI >> users) > > I'm sure there's overlap with "pointy-clicky GUI users" but my point > isn't to directly cater to them. I find it intersting to think about > how visual (and ok fine even gui) tools can be used as bridge tools > that can be discarded one the important concepts are solidified, and > maybe resurrected in a moment of stupidity or strife. > > It's like yes use the crutch if you need it, but then do it the real > way once you get it. Quite frankly, that would be like starting to learn how to drive a car by playing GTA 5, or whichever version of GTA it currently popular. I don't think that would work out well for the vast majority of student drivers. > And altho this is a visual helper feature, it keeps the user within the > terminal, close to the Git cli and may help some subset stay there. Even if that would work out for some people, it would require the formatting into tables to be the default for git, which frankly I'd never support.