From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Harms?= Subject: Re: Modern Git GUI Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 21:43:31 +0100 Organization: Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Cc: git@vger.kernel.org To: Matthieu Moy X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sun Jan 24 21:44:56 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NZ9KK-0001Be-AR for gcvg-git-2@lo.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 21:44:56 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753675Ab0AXUnf convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:43:35 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752900Ab0AXUne (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:43:34 -0500 Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com ([209.85.218.219]:42177 "EHLO mail-bw0-f219.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752534Ab0AXUne convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:43:34 -0500 Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so2229669bwz.28 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 12:43:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=m6qIVzE33RWi23ftYqnXWC/z+DU0yxDemzOAte72fKA=; b=oK3OO3PJfZUF/zAnqJG1YL43Tv2ueGo+RC9nvVrX7M3x8ICt0rC42sXNg2Gdh9kDZr rkwwbJ2uxr2GxLp4L/pQCN/5iAx3CWvlL9PdlP8FU6hhQjoaqpu8aoFblo3Y9MIjZIGm gSGsa3GV6IP9hOaHBMzbOEvodOLq/31qrk8sc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=HxItXyK36ngUOq2vyA2gXRDxy5Ipo5oEx+rOFK20n9VnnLMX2KCTJjVnno/1XP9Cep zdUUH3VTO1IX0bzjlf2uq1m3QcnVANdpixOevPkKR/8nDN8jT1/S6VetPhWAxmpxsVGJ vV0A89KqGlFO9N7UH0f9KqtaYtGRZ1lZsdvZ8= Received: by 10.204.8.151 with SMTP id h23mr3140605bkh.194.1264365812113; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 12:43:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 230733293ec7eaa2 Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: 2010/1/24 Matthieu Moy : > Andr=E9 Harms writes: > >> So I thought about developing a new kind of GUI for Git that looks >> modern and attractive > > Every once in a while, someone comes and says "Git GUIs aren't as goo= d > as I'd expect, I'll write my own". The result is that we have a myria= d > of GUIs (see > http://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/InterfacesFrontendsAndTools#Grap= hical_Interfaces ), > many of them being half-finished and/or abandonned. I don't believe > adding yet-another-one is going to improve the situation, and > pick-one-and-improve-it is IMHO a much better approach. Basically I agree with you. And I think you're right that yet another one won't improve the situation immediately. I've to admin, that I didn't think about that very much. So I have to rethink my plan. But my concept is different than the one of other GUIs. >> (you know... some eye-candy stuff) and that is easy to use. > > I use mostly the command-line, so I couldn't make a detailed review o= f > the existing, but tools like git-cola and a few others sound "modern" > to me (Qt4 & co). > > If you decide to go on with your project, either you want to carry it > out alone, or you'll have to convince other developers to join. In th= e > second case, a good starting point would be to explain why the other > GUI are not good enough, and why you can't just contribute to them. If I decide to go on anyhow, I'll work those things out clearly. Thanks for the tip. In my opinion other GUIs aren't intuitve for first-time users and aren't as good for experienced users as the command-line. But a GUI _can_ be helpful for experienced users as well. So there's a hole that can be filled. And my concept is based on a hybrid GUI that also offers a command-line for experienced users. So actions that are made with the built in command-line (console) are visualized. That also might be good for beginners who like to use the command-line but are afraid of using it. If I go on I'll probably use Clutter as GUI toolkit. With it one is able to create real good looking GUIs (though it's not a guarantor for a good GUI). Thanks for your opinion.