From: "Julia Evans" <julia@jvns.ca>
To: "Patrick Steinhardt" <ps@pks.im>, "Julia Evans" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] [doc] Add new gitmergeconflicts man page
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2026 12:54:03 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e593f3ca-4a03-45a7-b0cc-6295a3a4939f@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5ba2088c-4919-465f-8892-4ed0685f81ea@app.fastmail.com>
>> [snip]
>>> +[[ours]]
>>> +"OURS" AND "THEIRS"
>>> +-------------------
>>> +
>>> +Git refers to the first part of a merge conflict (between `<<<<<<<`
>>> +and `=======`) as "ours" and the second part (between `=======` and
>>> +`>>>>>>>`) as "theirs".
>>> +
>>> +Normally, "ours" is the commit that was checked out before you started
>>> +the merge, and "theirs" is the other commit.
>>> +
>>> +But when the merge conflict was caused by a `git rebase`, it's the
>>> +opposite: "theirs" is the commit that was checked out before you started
>>> +the merge. This is because under the hood, `git rebase main` checks out
>>> +the `main` commit first before doing the merge operation.
>>
>> Hmm. This part is a bit confusing to me. "ours" is always the commit
>> that's currently checked out, and "theirs" is always the one that is
>> getting merged into the checked-out commit.
>>
>> How about a variant of the following instead?
>>
>> In a conflict, the side between `<<<<<<<` and `=======` is "ours"
>> and the side between `=======` and `>>>>>>>` is "theirs". "Ours" is
>> always the side that `HEAD` points to while the merge happens; "theirs"
>> is the commit being merged into it.
>>
>> For `git merge <other>`, `HEAD` is your current branch, so "ours" is
>> your branch and "theirs" is `<other>`.
>>
>> For `git rebase <upstream>`, `HEAD` is first moved to `<upstream>` and
>> your commits are then replayed on top one at a time. So "ours" is the
>> already-rebased history starting at `<upstream>`, and "theirs" is the
>> commit from your original branch that is currently being replayed.
>
> Thanks, your suggestion gives me some other ways to think about this.
>
> I think I'll try to write something shorter that is unambiguous,
> instead of trying
> to use more words to make it feel more intuitive. I don't think I
> actually know
> anyone who feels it's easy to understand the way merge conflicts are
> presented, and more explanation may not help.
>
> It might be more useful here to encourage (again) folks to use one of the many
> amazing tools available (in the "tools" section) to get more context.
>
>>> +These terms in Git all mean the same thing when dealing with a merge
>>> +conflict:
>>> +
>>> +* "common ancestor", "base", and "stage 1"
>>> +* "ours", "us", "stage 2", and `HEAD`
>>> +* "theirs", "them", and "stage 3"
>>
>> I wouldn't say that "stage N" is equivalent to the respective other
>> terms. These stages rather refer to the different versions of a specific
>> file as recorded in the index, they do not indicate a specific commit.
>> In contrast to that, all the other terms may also indicate a specific
>> version of a file, but may also refer to the commits.
>
> Thanks, will try to figure out how to make it more accurate.
> We could also refer to gitdatamodel if folks want to learn what the
> term "stage" means too.
Marie and I worked on the OURS AND THEIRS section today and I think it's clearer
now but also longer (instead of shorter which was my dream). We added an attempt
at humor at the end to hopefully help things a bit.
"OURS" AND "THEIRS"
-------------------
Sometimes during a merge conflict, Git will use the terms "ours" and
"theirs" (or "us" and "them"). For example, `git status` might say that
a file was `deleted by us`.
"Ours" and "theirs" are both commits: "ours" is the current
`HEAD` commit, and "theirs" is the other side being merged.
The first part of a merge conflict (between `<<<<<<<` and `=======`) is
from the "ours" side, and the second part (between `=======` and
`>>>>>>>`) is from the "theirs" side.
----
FRUITS = [
"apple",
<<<<<<< HEAD
"cherry", <- ours
=======
"banana", <- theirs
>>>>>>> add-fruit
"mango",
"orange",
]
----
During a rebase, it can seem "upside down" because the "ours" commit is
from the branch you're rebasing on (for instance `main` in `git rebase
main`).
These terms in Git all mean the same thing when dealing with a merge
conflict:
* "common ancestor" and "base". The files from this commit are "in stage 1".
* "ours", "us", and `HEAD`. The files from this commit are "in stage 2".
* "theirs", "them". The files from this commit are "in stage 3".
If you're confused about what something like "deleted by us" means, it's
often easiest to use some of the tools from
<<tools,TOOLS FOR HANDLING MERGE CONFLICTS>> above to get more context.
Finding the commit that deleted the file and seeing why is usually more
helpful than trying to abstractly reason through what "us" means.
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2026-09-24 14:44 [PATCH 0/7] [doc] Add new page on merge conflicts Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-09-24 14:44 ` [PATCH 1/7] [doc] Add new gitmergeconflicts man page Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-09-24 20:36 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-09-24 22:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-09-30 13:19 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-09-30 19:53 ` Julia Evans
2026-09-30 20:37 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-01 5:14 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-10-01 12:10 ` Julia Evans
2026-10-02 17:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-05 16:54 ` Julia Evans [this message]
2026-10-05 17:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-05 19:11 ` Julia Evans
2026-09-24 14:44 ` [PATCH 2/7] [doc] git-merge: link to new merge conflicts guide Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-09-25 16:36 ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-09-25 16:59 ` Julia Evans
2026-09-25 18:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-09-25 19:32 ` Ben Knoble
2026-09-25 21:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-09-25 19:34 ` Ben Knoble
2026-10-02 17:01 ` Julia Evans
2026-10-02 17:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-02 18:53 ` Julia Evans
2026-10-02 21:38 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-03 2:25 ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-10-03 4:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-09-30 13:19 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-09-24 14:44 ` [PATCH 3/7] [doc] git-rebase: " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-09-24 14:44 ` [PATCH 4/7] [doc] git-revert: " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-09-24 14:44 ` [PATCH 5/7] [doc] git-cherry-pick: " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-09-25 17:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-09-28 20:58 ` Julia Evans
2026-09-28 21:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-09-24 14:44 ` [PATCH 6/7] [doc] git-pull: " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-09-24 14:44 ` [PATCH 7/7] [doc] ignore conflict markers in gitmergeconflicts.adoc Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-10-07 21:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-09 12:06 ` Julia Evans
2026-09-24 22:20 ` [PATCH 0/7] [doc] Add new page on merge conflicts Junio C Hamano
2026-09-24 23:37 ` Jeff King
2026-09-28 20:41 ` Julia Evans
2026-09-29 1:32 ` Jeff King
2026-09-29 1:56 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-09-25 16:25 ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-10-02 17:39 ` Julia Evans
2026-10-03 2:29 ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-10-05 18:49 ` Julia Evans
2026-10-06 16:53 ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-10-06 17:09 ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-10-09 12:00 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-10-09 12:00 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] doc: add new gitmergeconflicts man page Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-10-09 17:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-09 18:53 ` Julia Evans
2026-10-09 12:00 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] doc: git-merge: link to new merge conflicts guide Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-10-09 18:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-09 12:00 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] doc: git-rebase: " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-10-09 18:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-09 12:00 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] doc: git-revert: " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-10-09 18:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-09 12:00 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] doc: git-cherry-pick: " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-10-09 18:26 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-09 20:12 ` Julia Evans
2026-10-09 12:00 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] doc: git-pull: " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-10-09 18:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-09 15:41 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] [doc] Add new page on merge conflicts Junio C Hamano
2026-10-09 15:53 ` Julia Evans
2026-10-09 18:36 ` Junio C Hamano
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