From: Gabriel Scherer <gabriel.scherer@gmail.com>
To: Kristoffer Haugsbakk <kristofferhaugsbakk@fastmail.com>,
Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Cc: Matthieu Moy <git@matthieu-moy.fr>,
git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>,
Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>,
Todd Zullinger <tmz@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 10/11] contrib: remove "git-new-workdir"
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2025 17:22:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e6003a2c-bc1b-4cf5-aae7-ef5aa9c82f10@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2b3c951b-0400-4cc5-b790-17ff77154ec2@app.fastmail.com>
On 08/09/2025 11:58, Kristoffer Haugsbakk wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2025, at 11:28, Gabriel Scherer wrote:
>> Dear git developers,
>>
>> I find myself affected by the removal of the `git-new-workdir` script
>> which is a relatively common part of my workflow. I am writing to ask
>> if it might be possible to reinstate the script in `contrib`, and also
>> possibly create a discussion with other users affected.
>>
>> (The removal of the script was released in git 2.51, three weeks ago.)
> Did you run into this issue when upgrading from 2.50 to 2.51 or from an
> older version? Was it simple to troubleshoot that the script was gone?
I create a new workdir by manually running
/usr/share/doc/git/contrib/workdir/git-new-workdir, so indeed I
quickly found out that the wordir/ folder was gone and this was
clearly a git-side packaging change.
> Just curious. I’m as naïve about release management as any
> random person!
>
>>
>> Thanks for your work on git!
>>
>>
>> ## Details/comments
>>
>> > The command thus predates git-worktree(1), which is what people use
>> > nowadays to create any such working directory. As such, the script
>> > doesn't really have much of a reason to exist nowadays anymore.
>>
>> `git worktree` suffers from the substantial restriction that it is not
>> allowed for two worktrees to checkout the same branch.
> You can override that restriction with `--force`.[1]
>
> † 1: Naming override options just `--force` has some UX issues like
> discoverability and the fact that (in this case) it is used for
> multiple orthogonal things
Thanks. I just tried this, but I think it does not suffice. The --force
option is available to "git worktree add" to create a worktree for a
branch that is already checked out. But typically my workflow is to
create a worktree for a new feature branch, and there from that worktree
temporarily switch to an existing branch using `git checkout`, and there
I get a hard error (if another worktree has this branch) and there is no
--force option to override the worktree limitation at 'checkout' time. I
just tried to test whether worktrees created with --force would allow to
switch to checked-out-in-other-worktrees branches in the future, but
that does not appear to be the case.
>> I understand
>> why its designers felt that this would provide better guarantees (it
>> is not a good idea to mutate branch names that are checked out
>> somewhere else), but checking out various branches to test them and
>> inspect their code (before returning to the feature branch I am
>> actively working on) is a common part of my workflow.
> I agree, that’s a great use of worktrees. But I never feel like I have
> to checkout the branch itself. I detach on top of the branch.
I'm afraid `git checkout -d` is not part of my typical git workflow. I
could retrain myself to use it, when I get into a worktree error, but it
is cumbersome to know of this new complexity¹, and various things work
less well in detached state -- for example my bash prompt tells me in
which branch I am, and in detached state it only shows the commit hash.
¹: it would be nice if the fatal-error message on 'git checkout' when
trying to checkout a branch that is active on another worktree would
suggest using `git checkout -d` instead to proceed. I may try to send a
patch to add this information.
>> Getting a 'fatal
>> error' because some other, independent worktree also checked this
>> branch out is a hindrance.
>>
>> Note: I don't know about the `worktree` implementation and whether the
>> [snip]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-08 15:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-06 14:12 [PATCH 00/10] Spring cleanup of "contrib/" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 14:12 ` [PATCH 01/10] contrib: remove "remotes2config.sh" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 19:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-07 6:27 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-07 17:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-06 14:12 ` [PATCH 02/10] contrib: remove "examples" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 14:12 ` [PATCH 03/10] contrib: remove remote-helper stubs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 14:12 ` [PATCH 04/10] contrib: remove "thunderbird-patch-inline" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 14:12 ` [PATCH 05/10] contrib: remove "hooks" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 14:12 ` [PATCH 06/10] contrib: remove "mw-to-git" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 20:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-07 9:11 ` Matthieu Moy
2025-05-06 14:12 ` [PATCH 07/10] contrib: remove "persistent-https" remote helper Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 20:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-06 14:12 ` [PATCH 08/10] contrib: remove "git-resurrect.sh" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 20:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-07 6:58 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-07 17:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-07 18:36 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-05-06 14:12 ` [PATCH 09/10] contrib: remove "emacs" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 19:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-06 14:12 ` [PATCH 10/10] contrib: remove "git-new-workdir" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 19:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-07 6:27 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-07 17:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-09 7:53 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 20:43 ` [PATCH 00/10] Spring cleanup of "contrib/" Junio C Hamano
2025-05-06 22:51 ` Eric Sunshine
2025-05-07 1:32 ` Todd Zullinger
2025-05-07 3:55 ` Eric Sunshine
2025-05-07 6:27 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-10 20:07 ` D. Ben Knoble
2025-05-12 13:10 ` Phillip Wood
2025-05-09 9:17 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 9:17 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] contrib: remove "remotes2config.sh" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 9:17 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] contrib: remove "examples" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 9:17 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] contrib: remove remote-helper stubs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 9:17 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] contrib: remove "thunderbird-patch-inline" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 9:17 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] contrib: remove "hooks" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 9:17 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] contrib: remove "mw-to-git" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 9:17 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] contrib: remove "persistent-https" remote helper Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 9:17 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] contrib: remove "git-resurrect.sh" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 9:17 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] contrib: remove "emacs" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 9:17 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] contrib: remove "git-new-workdir" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 9:17 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] contrib: remove "stats" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 23:31 ` Elijah Newren
2025-05-09 23:53 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] Spring cleanup of "contrib/" Elijah Newren
2025-05-10 0:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-12 9:39 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12 4:05 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] contrib: remove "thunderbird-patch-inline" Collin Funk
2025-05-12 13:02 ` Phillip Wood
2025-05-12 14:45 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12 16:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-14 15:19 ` Phillip Wood
2025-05-16 13:53 ` [PATCH v2] contrib: update thunderbird-patch-inline Phillip Wood
2025-05-16 14:05 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-05-19 5:38 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-19 5:50 ` Collin Funk
2025-05-19 14:21 ` Phillip Wood
2025-06-03 22:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-19 15:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-10 12:30 ` [PATCH 00/10] Spring cleanup of "contrib/" Peter Krefting
2025-05-12 9:19 ` [PATCH v3 00/11] " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12 9:19 ` [PATCH v3 01/11] contrib: remove "remotes2config.sh" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12 9:19 ` [PATCH v3 02/11] contrib: remove "examples" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12 9:19 ` [PATCH v3 03/11] contrib: remove remote-helper stubs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12 9:19 ` [PATCH v3 04/11] contrib: remove "thunderbird-patch-inline" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-16 22:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-26 8:47 ` Toon Claes
2025-06-04 14:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-12 9:19 ` [PATCH v3 05/11] contrib: remove "hooks" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12 9:19 ` [PATCH v3 06/11] contrib: remove "mw-to-git" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12 9:19 ` [PATCH v3 07/11] contrib: remove "persistent-https" remote helper Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12 9:19 ` [PATCH v3 08/11] contrib: remove "git-resurrect.sh" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12 9:19 ` [PATCH v3 09/11] contrib: remove "emacs" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12 9:20 ` [PATCH v3 10/11] contrib: remove "git-new-workdir" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-08 9:28 ` Gabriel Scherer
2025-09-08 9:58 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-09-08 15:22 ` Gabriel Scherer [this message]
2025-09-12 18:14 ` D. Ben Knoble
2025-09-12 18:55 ` Gabriel Scherer
2025-09-12 22:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-12 20:05 ` Phillip Wood
2025-09-12 22:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-08 18:43 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-12 9:20 ` [PATCH v3 11/11] contrib: remove some scripts in "stats" directory Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-13 2:53 ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Spring cleanup of "contrib/" Elijah Newren
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