From: David Jeske <jeske@google.com>
To: Fedor Sergeev <Fedor.Sergeev@sun.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: why is git destructive by default? (i suggest it not be!)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:24:00 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e80d075a0806240324j79f872d3t1db9dfb87dc2d37c@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.WNT.1.10.0806241343170.3824@theodor>
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:01 AM, Fedor Sergeev <Fedor.Sergeev@sun.com> wrote:
> It looks like you are severely restricting your own way of thinking about
> a source code management as a source code backup system only.
>
> While this might be a valid mindset for a gatekeeper on a public repository
> it way way restrictive for a developer that wants to have a system that
> helps him doing a job.
Odd. I've never been a gatekeeper. I'm just a developer who has burned
himself enough times that I want a tool (i.e. source control) to help
prevent me from ever destroying anything I create. I like that git is
doing nicer things with merge tracking than older systems, and that
it's easier for distributed teams to move changes around in more
interesting ways than "up to the server" and "down from the server".
However, I also want it to provide the guarantee that "if I don't
touch the files in .git, it'll never lose my commits", which sadly
isn't true by default. I'm glad I can easily change the GC policy, but
I question why this isn't the default.
In another discussion about this, one of my coworkers pointed out that
making the GC default "never" would be much safer for new users, and
new users don't really need to worry about collecting things until
their repositories get bigger anyhow.
I also think that it would be simpler to understand for everyone if
every operation which can cause a dangling graph node require the
exact same override method (i.e. -f is fine, the capitalization as in
-d -> -D is fine, some --force or --hard is fine, but currently the
system is using three different methods in three different places)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-24 10:25 UTC|newest]
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[not found] <jeske@willow=01l5V7waFEDjChmh>
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5V7wbFEDjCX7V>
2008-06-24 1:47 ` why is git destructive by default? (i suggest it not be!) David Jeske
2008-06-24 1:47 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 17:11 ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-24 17:19 ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-24 19:08 ` Jakub Narebski
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5zrLdFEDjCV3U>
2008-06-24 20:04 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 21:42 ` Brandon Casey
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l63P33FEDjCVQ0>
2008-06-24 22:13 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 22:13 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 22:54 ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-24 23:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 2:26 ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-25 8:58 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-25 9:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-26 15:13 ` Brandon Casey
2008-06-24 22:21 ` Steven Walter
2008-06-24 22:21 ` [PATCH] cmd_reset: don't trash uncommitted changes unless told to Steven Walter
2008-06-24 22:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 9:12 ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-25 9:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 9:59 ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-25 10:16 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-25 10:24 ` Matthias Kestenholz
2008-06-25 10:46 ` Anton Gladkov
2008-06-25 12:33 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-25 14:49 ` [PATCH] cmd_reset: don't trash uncommitted changes unless toldto Craig L. Ching
2008-06-25 15:18 ` Anton Gladkov
2008-06-25 10:41 ` [PATCH] cmd_reset: don't trash uncommitted changes unless told to Johannes Sixt
2008-06-25 12:38 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-25 13:51 ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-25 17:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 19:50 ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-25 20:04 ` Avery Pennarun
2008-06-25 20:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 20:22 ` Avery Pennarun
2008-06-25 20:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 20:58 ` Avery Pennarun
2008-06-25 21:24 ` Re* " Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 21:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-26 1:26 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 20:37 ` Steven Walter
2008-06-25 20:38 ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-25 20:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 21:05 ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-25 21:35 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-26 5:16 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <20080627193325.6117@nanako3.lavabit.com>
2008-06-27 22:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-28 0:06 ` しらいしななこ
2008-06-28 22:32 ` しらいしななこ
2008-06-29 8:56 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 22:44 ` Petr Baudis
2008-06-26 1:59 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-25 20:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-26 11:55 ` Björn Steinbrink
2008-06-26 12:07 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-26 12:35 ` Björn Steinbrink
2008-06-26 15:55 ` Avery Pennarun
2008-06-26 17:49 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-26 12:01 ` Matthieu Moy
2008-06-26 12:09 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-26 12:23 ` David Kastrup
2008-06-25 13:19 ` Ian Hilt
2008-06-26 5:31 ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-06-26 16:15 ` Jon Loeliger
2008-06-25 5:29 ` Johannes Gilger
2008-06-24 20:04 ` why is git destructive by default? (i suggest it not be!) David Jeske
2008-06-25 8:57 ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-24 18:18 ` Brandon Casey
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5V7wbFEDjCX7V@videotron.ca>
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5cKsCFEDjC=91MX@videotron.ca>
2008-06-24 2:17 ` Nicolas Pitre
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5ciVtFEDjCaD9>
2008-06-24 3:18 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 3:18 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 8:14 ` Lea Wiemann
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5ciVtFEDjCaD9@videotron.ca>
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5e9cgFEDjCh3F@videotron.ca>
2008-06-24 4:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5fAcTFEDjCWA4>
2008-06-24 4:40 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 5:24 ` Jan Krüger
2008-06-24 4:40 ` David Jeske
[not found] ` <1978205964779154253@unknownmsgid>
2008-06-24 5:20 ` Avery Pennarun
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5gtQ7FEDjCWCC>
2008-06-24 6:35 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 6:35 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 7:24 ` Jeff King
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5jmMuFEDjChvB>
2008-06-24 7:31 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 7:31 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 8:16 ` Jeff King
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5kv6TFEDjCj8S>
2008-06-24 8:30 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 9:39 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-24 8:30 ` David Jeske
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5kv6TFEDjCj8S@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5lTEoFEDjCVta@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>
2008-06-24 10:01 ` Fedor Sergeev
2008-06-24 10:24 ` David Jeske [this message]
2008-06-24 13:13 ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-24 7:54 ` Jakub Narebski
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5kQf4FEDjCXUa>
2008-06-24 8:08 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 11:22 ` Jakub Narebski
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5p7eVFEDjCZRD>
2008-06-24 11:29 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 12:19 ` Rogan Dawes
2008-06-24 12:35 ` Johannes Gilger
2008-06-24 12:46 ` Rogan Dawes
2008-06-24 11:29 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 12:21 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-24 12:13 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-24 8:08 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 4:59 Teemu Likonen
[not found] ` <e80d075a0806232201o3933d154he2b570986604c30a@mail.gmail.com>
2008-06-24 5:43 ` Teemu Likonen
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2008-06-24 8:35 Björn Steinbrink
[not found] <willow-jeske-01l5oEsvFEDjCjRW>
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5oEswFEDjCZBN>
2008-06-24 10:42 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 15:29 ` Brandon Casey
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5uqS9FEDjCcuF>
2008-06-24 16:41 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 18:55 ` Brandon Casey
2008-06-25 12:20 ` Matthieu Moy
2008-06-25 17:56 ` Jing Xue
2008-06-24 16:41 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 10:42 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 12:21 Olivier Galibert
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