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From: "Kristoffer Haugsbakk" <kristofferhaugsbakk@fastmail.com>
To: git@vger.kernel.org, GGG <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: "D. Ben Knoble" <ben.knoble@gmail.com>, "Julia Evans" <julia@jvns.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] doc: use `man git` to teach users how to navigate the docs
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2026 08:06:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea29fe74-7f76-440c-9597-fdbc173be90f@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pull.2242.v2.git.1791317163584.gitgitgadget@gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 6, 2026, at 22:06, Julia Evans via GitGitGadget wrote:
> From: Julia Evans <julia@jvns.ca>
>
> Many existing users of Git don't know how Git's documentation is
> structured, and a lot of folks have expressed frustration that `man git`
> doesn't make it easy to find out how to get help with using Git.

Yeah I can imagine.

>
> Explain how Git's help system works in `man git`
> (`git push -h` gives a short help, `git push --help` is the full docs),
> since it's a slightly unusual approach.

I recall only relatively recently learning that `-h` is not just a
shorter way to type `--help`.

> Remove the references to gittutorial and giteveryday since they're
> unlikely to help new users learn Git. Currently they feel very
> aspirational (it would be nice to have a tutorial and a guide to
> everyday Git commands!), but we should give users a realistic view of
> what the documentation actually provides.

Right, aspirations are not good enough when it comes to the bread and
butter everyday howtos.

> Mention `git help` instead of `giteveryday` for now, which does a better
> job of giving an overview of everyday commands.
>
> Also mention `git help --guides` and `git help --user-interfaces`,
> since those parts of the documentation are useful and hard to discover.
>
> Do not mention `git help --developer-interfaces` since it's not relevant
> to users.

Okay, so now we don’t have to list out every guide that might be of
interest. That’s cool.

I see that this would conflict with my topic
kh/doc-gitbreaking-changes7.[1] Just would since my topic hasn’t
been integrated yet (RFC). I use the old style of mentioning the
new gitbreaking-changes(7) (“see <here> for ...”. I will remove
that change in order to stay consistent with this topic.

🔗 1: https://lore.kernel.org/git/CV_gitbrchanges7_please.d1c@m5gid.xyz/

>
> Signed-off-by: Julia Evans <julia@jvns.ca>
> ---
>     [doc] Use man git to teach users how to navigate the docs
>
>     Changes in v2:
>
>      * mention the git help push form too
>      * mention you can get HTML docs with git help --web push at the end to
>        advertise git help's great features, and remove
>        https://git.github.io/htmldocs/git.html since
>        https://git-scm.com/docs has a nicer view and 3 different options is
>        a lot.

Nitpick: Okay, but with the current commit message I don’t really
understand why the git.github.io link is gone. I have to guess that it
is an effective duplicate of git-scm or something since git-scm does
remain after this change.

>      * some minor wording changes
>      * fix commit message style (doc: not [doc])
>
>[snip]

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-10-07  6:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-28 20:32 [PATCH] [doc] Use `man git` to teach users how to navigate the docs Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-09-28 21:02 ` Ben Knoble
2026-09-29  2:00   ` Junio C Hamano
2026-09-29 11:29     ` Julia Evans
2026-09-29 19:51       ` Junio C Hamano
2026-09-29 21:00         ` Julia Evans
2026-09-29 21:20           ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v2] doc: use " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-10-06 20:23   ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-10-07  6:06   ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk [this message]
2026-10-07 12:13     ` Julia Evans
2026-10-07 13:47       ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-07 13:57         ` Julia Evans
2026-10-07 17:35           ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-07 19:13   ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-07 19:29     ` Julia Evans
2026-10-07 20:08       ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-08 15:09         ` Julia Evans

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