From: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
To: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: More precise tag following
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 17:30:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <epfulr$787$1@sea.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 45BB5888.9020608@fs.ei.tum.de
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote:
> Johannes Schindelin wrote:
>> It is slower than Subversion's counterpart, just because SVN's blame
>> sucks. You cannot find out the _relevant_ information easily, i.e. once
>> you merged something, the _merge_ gets attributed for the change (at
>> least the last time I tried it).
>>
>> So, don't blame blame for being useful in git.
>
> Your reasoning is backwards. Git's blame (or fwiw, rev-list path.name)
> is not slower because it is doing a better job (I can't tell, I don't
> use svn), but because it uses an algorithm which doesn't scale.
> rev-list and blame are O(number of commits between HEAD and root) and not
> O(number of commits affecting path). It might be sufficient for git.git,
> but certainly not for projects with a long history. we are talking KDE,
> FreeBSD, OOo, something like this. They each got about 400k commits.
> It takes literally *minutes* to get a rev-list or a blame for a certain
> path. The algorithm simply does not scale. And this has nothing to do
> with superior output, because hg does it in O(num_of_file_revs), so it
> *can* be done.
Mercurial (hg) has different repository structure, with changesets in
per filename "buckets", tied together with mainfest file and changelog
file. So it is easy to get per file history in hg, while it is harder
to get per commit (general) history; contrary to git where it is easy
to get per commit (general) history, and it is harder to get per file
history.
On the other hand IIRC Mercurial, due to its repository structure, has some
problems with file copying and renames, not to mention more complicated
contents movement (of which git-blame is aware of). Perhaps this structure
is/was also the cause that Mercurial is geared towards one branch per
repository workflow.
>> Of course, you could introduce a cache, but then, I don't run blame
>> _that_ often.
>
> I don't think a cache is the right way. I'd call the right idea
> "auxillary information".
If the information can be regenerated, this is cache. (Well, this is
one point of view).
P.S. In git we can use so called pickaxe (options to git-diff/git-log)
besides using annotate/blame.
--
Jakub Narebski
Warsaw, Poland
ShadeHawk on #git
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-01-27 16:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-01-26 11:07 More precise tag following Junio C Hamano
2007-01-26 11:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-01-27 8:01 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-01-27 8:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-01-27 13:33 ` Jeff King
2007-01-27 17:47 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-01-27 9:04 ` Simon 'corecode' Schubert
2007-01-27 12:58 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-01-27 13:50 ` Simon 'corecode' Schubert
2007-01-27 16:30 ` Jakub Narebski [this message]
2007-01-27 17:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-27 16:46 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-01-27 17:12 ` Simon 'corecode' Schubert
2007-01-27 19:13 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-01-27 19:55 ` Simon 'corecode' Schubert
2007-01-27 19:41 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-01-27 17:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-27 17:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-27 22:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-01-27 22:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-28 9:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-01-28 9:44 ` [PATCH] git-blame --porcelain: quote filename in c-style when needed Junio C Hamano
2007-01-28 14:25 ` [PATCH] git-blame --incremental: don't use pager René Scharfe
2007-01-28 19:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-01-28 19:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-01-29 0:32 ` René Scharfe
2007-01-29 2:35 ` [PATCH] git blame --progress Junio C Hamano
2007-01-29 7:00 ` Simon 'corecode' Schubert
2007-01-29 16:54 ` Alex Riesen
2007-01-29 18:12 ` Matthias Lederhofer
2007-01-29 19:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-01-29 19:59 ` René Scharfe
2007-01-29 20:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-30 1:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-01-28 19:08 ` More precise tag following Linus Torvalds
2007-01-28 19:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-01-28 19:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-28 20:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-01-28 20:20 ` [PATCH] document 'blame --incremental' Junio C Hamano
2007-01-28 21:06 ` More precise tag following Junio C Hamano
2007-01-28 23:01 ` Jeff King
2007-01-30 9:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-01-30 15:31 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-01-30 17:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-28 19:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-01-29 6:18 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-01-29 10:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-01-29 10:31 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-01-29 16:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-29 18:07 ` Simon 'corecode' Schubert
2007-01-29 19:29 ` Theodore Tso
2007-01-29 19:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-29 20:25 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-01-29 20:47 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-01-29 21:02 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-02-09 7:41 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-01-31 8:39 ` David Kågedal
2007-01-31 10:59 ` David Kågedal
2007-01-31 16:12 ` Peter Eriksen
2007-01-31 17:04 ` David Kågedal
2007-01-31 17:12 ` Peter Eriksen
2007-01-31 17:35 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-01-31 20:59 ` David Kågedal
2007-01-27 18:40 ` Simon 'corecode' Schubert
2007-01-27 19:02 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-01-27 19:12 ` Simon 'corecode' Schubert
2007-01-27 19:19 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-01-27 19:59 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-01-27 19:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-27 19:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-27 19:54 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-01-27 20:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-27 19:36 ` Chris Lee
2007-01-28 18:10 ` Theodore Tso
2007-01-28 18:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-28 22:26 ` David Lang
2007-01-29 17:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-01-29 17:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-29 17:58 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-01-29 19:16 ` Chris Lee
2007-01-29 23:00 ` Eric Wong
2007-01-30 0:42 ` Eric Wong
2007-01-30 0:48 ` Eric Wong
2007-01-30 8:51 ` Eric Wong
2007-01-27 18:52 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-01-27 20:16 ` Jeff King
2007-01-27 22:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-27 23:52 ` Jeff King
2007-01-28 2:39 ` Theodore Tso
2007-01-28 3:17 ` Randal L. Schwartz
2007-01-28 13:15 ` Jeff King
2007-01-28 7:40 ` Shawn O. Pearce
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