From: Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>
To: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>, git@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
Justin Tobler <jltobler@gmail.com>,
Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org>,
Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com>,
Todd Zullinger <tmz@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/4] docs: document upcoming breaking changes
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2024 15:23:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f231d5ff-08e5-47b3-aadc-0f88566c2588@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1717504292.git.ps@pks.im>
Hi Patrick
On 04/06/2024 13:32, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> another day, another version of this patch series that aims to give a
> framework for documenting upcoming breaking changes in Git.
>
> Changes compared to v5:
>
> - Note that Git 1.6 was a breaking release, despite the fact that its
> major version wasn't bumped.
>
> - Several smallish rewordings.
>
> - Note that items on the lists should only be discussed anew when
> circumstances have changed.
>
> - Add some conditions to the move to "sha256". Also, note that we do
> not plan to deprecate "sha1".
>
> - Note that replacement refs are also superior over grafts because
> they can be carried across repos.
This version looks good to me
Thanks for writing this document
Phillip
> Thanks!
>
> Patrick
>
> Patrick Steinhardt (4):
> docs: introduce document to announce breaking changes
> BreakingChanges: document upcoming change from "sha1" to "sha256"
> BreakingChanges: document removal of grafting
> BreakingChanges: document that we do not plan to deprecate
> git-checkout
>
> Documentation/BreakingChanges.txt | 128 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 128 insertions(+)
> create mode 100644 Documentation/BreakingChanges.txt
>
> Range-diff against v5:
> 1: 67cb4de5cb ! 1: a260bbf281 docs: introduce document to announce breaking changes
> @@ Documentation/BreakingChanges.txt (new)
> +breaking versions is typically measured in multiple years. The last breaking
> +releases were:
> +
> ++* Git 1.6, released in August 2008. In retrospect, this release should likely
> ++ have bumped the major version.
> +* Git 2.0, released in May 2014.
> +
> -+The intent of this document is to track upcoming deprecations for the next
> -+major Git release. Furthermore, this document also tracks what will _not_ be
> -+deprecated. This is done such that the outcome of discussions documente both
> ++The intent of this document is to track upcoming deprecations for future
> ++breaking releases. Furthermore, this document also tracks what will _not_ be
> ++deprecated. This is done such that the outcome of discussions document both
> +when the discussion favors deprecation, but also when it rejects a deprecation.
> +
> -+Items should have a self-sufficient explanation why we want or do not want to
> -+make the described change. If there are alternatives to the changed feature,
> ++Items should have a clear summary of the reasons why we do or do not want to
> ++make the described change that can be easily understood without having to read
> ++the mailing list discussions. If there are alternatives to the changed feature,
> +those alternatives should be pointed out to our users.
> +
> +All items should be accompanied by references to relevant mailing list threads
> @@ Documentation/BreakingChanges.txt (new)
> +described item back then.
> +
> +This is a living document as the environment surrounding the project changes
> -+over time. An earlier decision to deprecate or change something may need to be
> -+revisited from time to time. So do not take items on this list to mean "it is
> -+settled, do not waste our time bringing it up again".
> ++over time. If circumstances change, an earlier decision to deprecate or change
> ++something may need to be revisited from time to time. So do not take items on
> ++this list to mean "it is settled, do not waste our time bringing it up again".
> +
> +== Git 3.0
> +
> 2: b36ffcbaa6 ! 2: f7c6a66f71 BreakingChanges: document upcoming change from "sha1" to "sha256"
> @@ Documentation/BreakingChanges.txt: be changed to or replaced in case the alterna
> +and will thus change the default hash algorithm to "sha256" for newly
> +initialized repositories.
> ++
> ++An important requirement for this change is that the ecosystem is ready to
> ++support the "sha256" object format. This includes popular Git libraries,
> ++applications and forges.
> +++
> ++There is no plan to deprecate the "sha1" object format at this point in time.
> +++
> +Cf. <2f5de416-04ba-c23d-1e0b-83bb655829a7@zombino.com>,
> +<20170223155046.e7nxivfwqqoprsqj@LykOS.localdomain>,
> +<CA+EOSBncr=4a4d8n9xS4FNehyebpmX8JiUwCsXD47EQDE+DiUQ@mail.gmail.com>.
> 3: 4142e472ac ! 3: b25b91a5e7 BreakingChanges: document removal of grafting
> @@ Documentation/BreakingChanges.txt: Cf. <2f5de416-04ba-c23d-1e0b-83bb655829a7@zom
> === Removals
>
> +* Support for grafting commits has long been superseded by git-replace(1).
> -+ Grafts are inferior to replacement refs as the mechanism can lead to
> -+ hard-to-diagnose problems when transferring objects between repositories.
> -+ They have been outdated since e650d0643b (docs: mark info/grafts as outdated,
> -+ 2014-03-05) and will be removed.
> ++ Grafts are inferior to replacement refs:
> +++
> ++ ** Grafts are a local-only mechanism and cannot be shared across reositories.
> ++ ** Grafts can lead to hard-to-diagnose problems when transferring objects
> ++ between repositories.
> +++
> ++The grafting mechanism has been marked as outdated since e650d0643b (docs: mark
> ++info/grafts as outdated, 2014-03-05) and will be removed.
> ++
> +Cf. <20140304174806.GA11561@sigill.intra.peff.net>.
> +
> 4: 9ff94b6f32 ! 4: 4fafccc3b9 BreakingChanges: document that we do not plan to deprecate git-checkout
> @@ Documentation/BreakingChanges.txt: Some features have gained newer replacements
> that the old way of doing things will eventually be removed. This section tracks
> those features with newer alternatives.
> +
> -+* git-restore(1) and git-switch(1) have been introduced as a replacement for
> -+ git-checkout(1). As git-checkout(1) is quite established, and as the benefit
> -+ of switching to git-restore(1) and git-switch(1) is contended, all three
> -+ commands will stay.
> ++* The features git-checkout(1) offers are covered by the pair of commands
> ++ git-restore(1) and git-switch(1). Because the use of git-checkout(1) is still
> ++ widespread, and it is not expected that this will change anytime soon, all
> ++ three commands will stay.
> ++
> +This decision may get revisited in case we ever figure out that there are
> +almost no users of any of the commands anymore.
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Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-07 8:27 [RFC PATCH] docs: document upcoming breaking changes Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-07 10:38 ` Johannes Schindelin
2024-05-08 13:55 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-07 22:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-08 13:54 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-08 14:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-08 15:59 ` Dragan Simic
2024-05-10 11:36 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-10 12:43 ` Dragan Simic
2024-05-08 13:15 ` Phillip Wood
2024-05-08 13:55 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-10 2:15 ` Justin Tobler
2024-05-10 4:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-14 6:50 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-14 6:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2] " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-14 10:48 ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-14 11:22 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-14 15:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-14 12:32 ` Dragan Simic
2024-05-24 12:54 ` [PATCH v3] " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-24 17:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-30 12:04 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-30 3:23 ` Commands using -h as an option don't work consistently Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 18:33 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 20:05 ` [PATCH 0/3] Branches are branches and not heads Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 20:05 ` [PATCH 1/3] refs: call branches branches Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 21:32 ` Eric Sunshine
2024-06-03 20:05 ` [PATCH 2/3] ls-remote: introduce --branches and deprecate --heads Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 21:30 ` Rubén Justo
2024-06-03 21:42 ` Eric Sunshine
2024-06-03 21:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 20:05 ` [PATCH 3/3] show-ref: " Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 21:32 ` [PATCH 0/3] Branches are branches and not heads Rubén Justo
2024-06-04 7:56 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 22:01 ` [PATCH v2 " Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04 22:01 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] refs: call branches branches Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04 22:01 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] ls-remote: introduce --branches and deprecate --heads Junio C Hamano
2024-06-06 9:39 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-06 15:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04 22:01 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] show-ref: " Junio C Hamano
2024-06-14 19:32 ` Elijah Newren
2024-06-14 21:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-14 21:34 ` Elijah Newren
2024-06-14 21:42 ` Elijah Newren
2024-06-14 22:46 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-06 9:39 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Branches are branches and not heads Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-31 7:56 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] docs: document upcoming breaking changes Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-31 7:56 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] docs: introduce document to announce " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-31 16:51 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 9:32 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-03 16:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04 7:42 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-31 7:56 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] BreakingChanges: document upcoming change from "sha1" to "sha256" Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-31 17:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-31 7:56 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] BreakingChanges: document removal of grafting Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-31 7:56 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] BreakingChanges: document that we do not plan to deprecate git-checkout Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-31 17:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-31 23:35 ` Todd Zullinger
2024-05-31 8:43 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] docs: document upcoming breaking changes Junio C Hamano
2024-05-31 11:15 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-03 9:28 ` [PATCH v5 " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-03 9:28 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] docs: introduce document to announce " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-03 14:08 ` Phillip Wood
2024-06-03 16:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04 6:59 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-03 9:28 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] BreakingChanges: document upcoming change from "sha1" to "sha256" Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-03 16:36 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04 7:06 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 17:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 9:28 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] BreakingChanges: document removal of grafting Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-03 16:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-03 9:28 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] BreakingChanges: document that we do not plan to deprecate git-checkout Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-03 16:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04 7:11 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 12:32 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] docs: document upcoming breaking changes Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 12:32 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] docs: introduce document to announce " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 17:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-05 5:31 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-05 16:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-05 17:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-06 4:35 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 12:32 ` [PATCH v6 2/4] BreakingChanges: document upcoming change from "sha1" to "sha256" Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 12:32 ` [PATCH v6 3/4] BreakingChanges: document removal of grafting Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 18:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-04 12:32 ` [PATCH v6 4/4] BreakingChanges: document that we do not plan to deprecate git-checkout Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-04 14:23 ` Phillip Wood [this message]
2024-06-04 18:01 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] docs: document upcoming breaking changes Junio C Hamano
2024-06-05 5:32 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-14 6:42 ` [PATCH v7 " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-14 6:42 ` [PATCH v7 1/4] docs: introduce document to announce " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-14 16:08 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-06-14 6:42 ` [PATCH v7 2/4] BreakingChanges: document upcoming change from "sha1" to "sha256" Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-14 6:42 ` [PATCH v7 3/4] BreakingChanges: document removal of grafting Patrick Steinhardt
2024-06-14 6:42 ` [PATCH v7 4/4] BreakingChanges: document that we do not plan to deprecate git-checkout Patrick Steinhardt
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2024-05-29 22:03 Commands using -h as an option don't work consistently Kevin Day
2024-05-29 22:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-29 22:40 ` Kevin Day
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