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From: "Michael K. Edwards" <medwards.linux@gmail.com>
To: "Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: "Shawn Pearce" <spearce@spearce.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Kernel Org Admin" <ftpadmin@kernel.org>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Jakub Narebski" <jnareb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: kernel.org mirroring (Re: [GIT PULL] MMC update)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 15:33:48 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f2b55d220612071533l332d107t5852121eab53e5d8@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0612071152410.3615@woody.osdl.org>

On 12/7/06, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:
> Does anybody who is web-server clueful know if there is some simple
> front-end (squid?) that is easy to set up and can just act as a caching
> proxy in front of such an incompetent server?

Squid in "transparent reverse proxy" mode isn't a bad choice, although
I don't know offhand whether it queues/clusters concurrent requests
for the same URL in the way you want.  I suggest the "transparent"
deployment (netfilter/netlink integration) because you can slap it in
with no changes to the origin server and yank it out again if you have
a problem.  The challenge is in getting conntrack to scale to a
zillion concurrent sessions, but you could probably find someone in
your crowd who knows something about that.  :-)

Ignore any documentation that talks about httpd_accel_*.  Configuring
transparent mode is a great deal simpler and saner in squid 2.6 than
it used to be; you just add a "transparent" parameter to the http_port
tag.  With or without this tag, you set up what used to be called
"accelerator mode" using some parameters to http_port and cache_peer,
as described in
http://www.squid-cache.org/mail-archive/squid-users/200607/0162.html.

If transparent mode looks like the right thing for kernel.org, you
might be interested in some netfilter hackery to offload part of the
conntrack session lookup load to a front-end box that blocks DDoS and
acts more or less as an L4 switch plus session context cache.  I've
been banging on a proof of concept implementation for a while, and am
currently working on integrating against 2.6.19 by splitting
nf_conntrack into front and back halves that interact via a sort of
Layer 2+ header.  I have no idea yet whether it will have any
scalability benefit on dual-x86_64 class hardware (it was originally
conceived for rigid cache architectures where the random access
patterns of session lookups have drastic cache effects).

Cheers,

  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-07 23:33 UTC|newest]

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2006-12-07 19:05                     ` kernel.org mirroring (Re: [GIT PULL] MMC update) Linus Torvalds
2006-12-07 19:16                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-07 19:30                         ` Olivier Galibert
2006-12-07 19:57                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-07 23:50                             ` Olivier Galibert
2006-12-07 23:56                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-08 11:25                               ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-08 12:57                             ` Rogan Dawes
2006-12-08 13:38                               ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-08 14:31                                 ` Rogan Dawes
2006-12-08 15:38                                   ` Jonas Fonseca
2006-12-09  1:28                                 ` Martin Langhoff
2006-12-09  2:03                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-09  2:52                                     ` Martin Langhoff
2006-12-09  5:09                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-09  5:34                                         ` Martin Langhoff
2006-12-09 16:26                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-08 16:16                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-08 16:35                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-08 16:42                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-08 19:49                                     ` Lars Hjemli
2006-12-08 19:51                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-08 19:59                                         ` Lars Hjemli
2006-12-08 20:02                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-10  9:43                                     ` rda
2006-12-08 16:54                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-08 17:04                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-08 17:40                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-08 23:27                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-08 23:46                                       ` Michael K. Edwards
2006-12-08 23:49                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-09  0:18                                           ` Michael K. Edwards
2006-12-09  0:23                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-09  0:49                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-09  0:51                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-09  4:36                                           ` Michael K. Edwards
2006-12-09  9:27                                           ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]                                       ` <4579FABC.5070509@garzik.org>
2006-12-09  0:45                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-09  0:47                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-09  9:16                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-09  1:56                                       ` Martin Langhoff
2006-12-09 11:51                                         ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-09 12:42                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-09 13:37                                             ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-09 14:43                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-09 17:02                                                 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-09 17:27                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-10  4:07                                               ` Martin Langhoff
2006-12-10 10:09                                                 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-10 12:41                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-10 13:02                                                     ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-10 13:45                                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-10 19:11                                                         ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-10 19:50                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-10 20:27                                                             ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-10 20:30                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-10 22:01                                                                 ` Martin Langhoff
2006-12-10 22:14                                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-10 22:08                                                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-10 21:01                                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-10 22:05                                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-10 22:59                                                             ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-11  2:16                                                               ` Martin Langhoff
2006-12-11  8:59                                                                 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-11 10:18                                                                   ` Martin Langhoff
2006-12-09 18:04                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-09 18:30                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-10  3:55                                             ` Martin Langhoff
2006-12-10  7:05                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-12 21:19                                                 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-09  7:56                                       ` Steven Grimm
2006-12-07 19:30                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-07 19:39                           ` Shawn Pearce
2006-12-07 19:58                             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-07 23:33                               ` Michael K. Edwards [this message]
2006-12-07 19:58                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-07 20:05                           ` Junio C Hamano
2006-12-07 20:09                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-12-07 22:11                               ` Junio C Hamano
2006-12-08  9:43                       ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-11  3:40 linux
2006-12-11  9:30 ` Jakub Narebski

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