From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.7 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97A14211B3 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2018 15:53:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727439AbeLADDE (ORCPT ); Fri, 30 Nov 2018 22:03:04 -0500 Received: from mail-qk1-f193.google.com ([209.85.222.193]:35955 "EHLO mail-qk1-f193.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726572AbeLADDE (ORCPT ); Fri, 30 Nov 2018 22:03:04 -0500 Received: by mail-qk1-f193.google.com with SMTP id o125so3421296qkf.3 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2018 07:53:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=V1VsLTn8KNyyB0l6DHxhISUn8tXFHp6KyObX8DsenlA=; b=jBILUhc6QOGeIutSpHnXJfYdy2AfOL2ljGprqQ8DIMhThEjD2VwctAL6Hr/SQA2vkj 0lbtXjykOCQQeJkP/N0r9NTmVaXTL5Ppk+qhFmZ9s6CUvJGSkgo64YkRulwAdgTY3agL EQkvqBBsW+VvjVaKzjWDzXTEY8wvS7VqSKXxk8lwtCwIfNbCH2Wpcx1UYyl8Frf1KwX+ mVZ/XbRuGAs7PSST591U33LPQmid8VCE5IAAmX5ALZ95QCyAiMEC5clKl9zcrtFxMokV eJsPIFNhI6WBYC0E4QVS39IdjPFV7WsdqxPvEM9GfMvMf0qmm2B+5k5EUaNfZ9SdUpWX JDOg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=V1VsLTn8KNyyB0l6DHxhISUn8tXFHp6KyObX8DsenlA=; b=aFdWFY67/yS/xd7mf797gbIUvyH0YfBb4HG2wzmMLqz2YvaS0Pd7pFZOuPyFFpQpau OOIHsuQNpdjxbSgv1X5iS1KASQQl2HmfJ8qYiev/EZjFNVYU+Yz5fI5QDldhW3Co7mF/ Q9crl39FxbOczqmdvey99U+uu8JsRgsYEnaFEG2oLeCPAodXWgQDdkM/eowP8Z4xYgXK UIxpr8Iclm/qfye55jeCXvanj/+BvUqxSi3Q6wPdQDCbjq1zxTvXjeYfDUXQPZJbN6CW YhazRd2buYKc8arCgYxS8KHC7vMzDshLX8c/K2euX1QrCUZelNVu3lUR+qqV9sh/M37r exfQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWb8dv+fv0wfRz18fEmdwYmZW8+oVwpyR1VAystfNjtaTl1ZUpFJ 1GT4BI201Rkc4c+VgCtaPFA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/X95+9VzRgLVAxGRcGm9ngB8X+8xz/ViMI8fVq1dFXyG/S29kqCB46aCvrYfXZObB9duMhtMg== X-Received: by 2002:ae9:dd42:: with SMTP id r63mr5547309qkf.264.1543593196732; Fri, 30 Nov 2018 07:53:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:4898:6808:13e:2ccb:dbc2:b5d4:990d? ([2001:4898:8010:2:15ff:dbc2:b5d4:990d]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 195sm2941352qki.76.2018.11.30.07.53.15 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 30 Nov 2018 07:53:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] pack-objects: add --sparse option To: Junio C Hamano Cc: Stefan Beller , gitgitgadget@gmail.com, git , Jeff King , =?UTF-8?B?w4Z2YXIgQXJuZmrDtnLDsCBCamFybWFzb24=?= , Jonathan Nieder , Derrick Stolee References: <9d6b8f6d0602e85652b2a748c58eeed4cbf4359e.1543441960.git.gitgitgadget@gmail.com> <1e9d4d2d-561e-fcbc-48cf-374dcb9ce009@gmail.com> From: Derrick Stolee Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 10:53:15 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/64.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On 11/29/2018 9:39 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Derrick Stolee writes: > >> While _eventually_ we should make this opt-out, we shouldn't do that >> until it has cooked a while. > I actually do not agree. If the knob gives enough benefit, the > users will learn about it viva voce, and in a few more releases > we'll hear "enough users complain that they have to turn it on, > let's make it the default". If that does not happen, the knob > does not deserve to be turned on in the first place. That's a good philosophy. I'll keep it in mind. > Having said that, I won't be commenting on this shiny new toy before > the final. I want to see more people help tying the loose ends and > give it final varnish to the upcoming release, as it seems to have > become rockier and larger release than we originally anticipated. Yeah, no rush on this one. I just wanted to get some initial feedback about the idea. Thanks, -Stolee