From: Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy <pclouds@gmail.com>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>,
Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 8/8] --sparse for porcelains
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:41:13 +0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fcaeb9bf0908170741v210e7f4et9f1c68bc9a81ca65@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0908171524150.4991@intel-tinevez-2-302>
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Johannes
Schindelin<Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Johannes
>> Schindelin<Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
>> > Turns out that somebody on IRC had a problem that requires to have
>> > sparse'd out files which _do_ have working directory copies.
>> >
>> > So just having the assume-changed bit may not be enough.
>> >
>> > The scenario is this: the repository contains a file that users are
>> > supposed to change, but not commit to (only the super-intelligent
>> > inventor of this scenario is allowed to). As this repository is
>> > originally a subversion one, there is no problem: people just do not
>> > switch branches.
>> >
>> > But this guy uses git-svn, so he does switch branches, and to avoid
>> > committing the file by mistake, he marked it assume-unchanged.
>>
>> Hmm.. never thought of this use before. If he does not want to commit by
>> mistake, should he add to-be-committed changes to index and do "git
>> commit" without "-a" (even better, do "git diff --cached" first)?
>
> You probably agree that this would be a _very_ fragile setup. Very easy
> to make mistakes.
>
> But we try to get away from that, don't we? Git had a reputation to be
> easy fsck up for long enough.
Well.. of course I don't want Git to keep that reputation :-)
>> > Only that a branch switch overwrites the local changes.
>>
>> I don't think branch switch overwrites changes in this case. Whenever
>> Git is to touch worktree files, it ignores assumed-unchanged bit and
>> does lstat() to make sure worktree files are up to date.
>
> Well, it does there, thankyouverymuch.
>
> The problem of course is that the other branch has an ancient version of
> that file (which should _not_ overwrite the current, modified version!),
> i.e. "git diff HEAD..other -- file" does not come empty.
>
> As 'file' is assume-unchanged, zinnnng, the file gets "updated".
Then it is a bug. Assume-unchanged as in reading is good.
Assume-unchanged in writing sounds scary. Something like this should
fix it (not well tested though). It's on top of my series, but you can
adapt it to 'next' or 'master' easily.
diff --git a/unpack-trees.c b/unpack-trees.c
index eb47676..7b9ddf6 100644
--- a/unpack-trees.c
+++ b/unpack-trees.c
@@ -538,7 +538,9 @@ static int verify_uptodate_1(struct cache_entry *ce,
{
struct stat st;
- if (o->index_only || o->reset || ce_uptodate(ce))
+ if (o->index_only || o->reset ||
+ /* we are going to update worktree, don't trust ce_uptodate if
it is CE_VALID'd */
+ (!(ce->ce_flags & CE_VALID) && ce_uptodate(ce)))
return 0;
if (!lstat(ce->name, &st)) {
>> > I suggested the use of the sparse feature, and mark this file (and
>> > this file alone) as sparse'd-out.
>>
>> Sparse checkout only removes a file if its assume-unchanged bit
>> changes from 0 to 1.
>
> The problem is not removing, but overwriting.
>
> And in this respect, 'assume-unchanged' is a very different beast from
> 'sparse'. I am growing more and more convinced that you cannot just reuse
> the assume-unchanged bit.
And assume-unchanged bit could get lost during index merging, which
may cause unexpected effect if sparse checkout bases off
assume-unchanged. Let me think more of it tonight.
>> If it's already 1, it does not care whether there is a corresponding
>> file in worktree. So something like this should work:
>>
>> git checkout my-branch
>> git update-index --assume-unchanged that-special-file
>> echo that-special-file > .git/info/sparse
>> # edit that-special-file
>> git commit -a
>> # do whatever you want, git pull/checkout/read-tree... won't touch
>> that-special-file because it's assume-unchanged already
>
> ... except if you changed .git/info/sparse and a formerly sparse'd-out
> file is overwritten by "pull". Not good.
Again, I think it's a bug.
>> > Is this an intended usage scenario? Then we cannot reuse the
>> > assume-changed bit [*1*].
>>
>> It'd be great if people tell us all the scenarios they have. My use
>> could be too limited.
>
> The use case I would have is where a collaborator wants to work only on
> one subdirectory and the top-level directory. All other subdirectories
> are of no interest to him.
>
> Another use case: documentation. I do not have that use case yet, but I
> know about people who do.
Translators usually checkout one or two files (I am Vietnamese
Translation Coordinator of GNOME, but well... I check them all out. I
suppose "normal" translators would not want to do like I do.)
> Specifying what you _want_ to have checked out
> is much more straight-forward here than the opposite.
I think it depends on type of projects. For documentation projects,
you may want a few files. For software projects, usually you need
everything _except_ a few big directories. For WebKit, it's a bunch of
test data that I don't care about. Firmware in hardware-related
projects or media files in game projects fall in the same category. I
don't have strong opinion on this. Either include or exclude is fine
to me.
--
Duy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-17 14:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-11 15:43 [RFC PATCH v3 0/8] Sparse checkout Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2009-08-11 15:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/8] Prevent diff machinery from examining assume-unchanged entries on worktree Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2009-08-11 15:44 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/8] Avoid writing to buffer in add_excludes_from_file_1() Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2009-08-11 15:44 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/8] Read .gitignore from index if it is assume-unchanged Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2009-08-11 15:44 ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/8] excluded_1(): support exclude "directories" in index Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2009-08-11 15:44 ` [RFC PATCH v3 5/8] dir.c: export excluded_1() and add_excludes_from_file_1() Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2009-08-11 15:44 ` [RFC PATCH v3 6/8] unpack-trees.c: generalize verify_* functions Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2009-08-11 15:44 ` [RFC PATCH v3 7/8] Support sparse checkout in unpack_trees() and read-tree Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2009-08-11 15:44 ` [RFC PATCH v3 8/8] --sparse for porcelains Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2009-08-12 6:33 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-08-12 10:01 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2009-08-13 7:20 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2009-08-13 9:58 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-08-13 12:38 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2009-08-14 20:23 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-08-15 2:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-08-15 23:37 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-08-16 8:14 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-08-17 9:08 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-08-17 12:49 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2009-08-17 13:35 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-08-17 14:41 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy [this message]
2009-08-17 15:19 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-08-17 16:13 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2009-08-17 15:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-08-17 16:06 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2009-08-17 16:19 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-08-17 18:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-08-17 22:02 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-08-17 23:02 ` skillzero
2009-08-17 23:16 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-08-18 0:17 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-08-18 0:34 ` skillzero
2009-08-18 1:43 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2009-08-18 6:25 ` git find (was: [RFC PATCH v3 8/8] --sparse for porcelains) Jakub Narebski
2009-08-18 14:35 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2009-08-18 16:00 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-08-18 0:49 ` [RFC PATCH v3 8/8] --sparse for porcelains Jakub Narebski
2009-08-18 0:23 ` skillzero
2009-08-17 16:46 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-08-17 21:45 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-08-17 16:01 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-08-12 7:31 ` Johannes Sixt
2009-08-12 9:53 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2009-08-12 15:40 ` Raja R Harinath
2009-08-13 7:37 ` Johannes Sixt
2009-08-11 21:18 ` [RFC PATCH v3 7/8] Support sparse checkout in unpack_trees() and read-tree skillzero
2009-08-11 21:38 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-08-11 22:03 ` skillzero
2009-08-12 1:30 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2009-08-12 4:59 ` skillzero
2009-08-12 2:51 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/8] Read .gitignore from index if it is assume-unchanged Junio C Hamano
2009-08-13 6:37 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
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