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From: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
To: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Git in a Nutshell guide
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:57:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fhvs95$5qk$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3057F6F3-BEAA-447A-AB79-A0AFB7DB8826@lrde.epita.fr

Benoit Sigoure wrote:

> On Nov 19, 2007, at 5:14 PM, Jonas Juselius wrote:
>> On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 17:05 +0100, Jakub Narebski wrote:
>>> Do I understand correctly that you don't support cloning via git://
>>> protocol?
>>
>> Yes, that is correct. The machine is behind a number of firewalls,  
>> and I simply cannot be bothered to go through the bureaucracy...
> 
> You can create a repository on repo.or.cz then :)

Which can then function as a mirror.

> One of the things you said in your guide is that Git is easy to  
> learn.  I think this is wrong.  Git is way more complicated than most  
> other SCMs, especially compared to SVN.  Its documentation is far  
> behind, compared to what other SCMs have.  There is no real user  
> guide 

What about "Git User's Manual"?

> and the man pages are incomplete, at best.  I know saying this   
> is a bit harsh, especially to the people out there that are working  
> and sending patches to improve the documentation, but I think we have  
> to admit that it's true, even though Git is making progress on this  
> aspect.

That's sadly true, and confirmed (somewhat) by the fact that both in 2006
user's survey and in 2007 survey (see Git Wiki for summaries) one of more
common requests are for "better documentation" and "The Git Book" (showing
svnbook and hgbook as examples).

[cut]

I think that writing proper "Git Guide" aka "The Git Book" is hard because
of some things:

 1. Git has many useful advanced features. Describing those advanced
    features is not easy. For example git uses multiple branches in single
    repository paradigm freely, which makes learning curve a bit steeper;
    IIRC hgbook describes one branch per repos situation (at least at
    beginning), which is easier.

 2. Git has some historical cruft, including the fact that it began as
    series of low level tools (plumbing) and became proper SCM (acquired
    proper porcelain) later, what can be even now seen in documentation...

 3. Explanation of some features (like object model) would be much easier
    with some graphics (diagrams etc.), but chosen documentation format,
    AsciiDoc, doesn't make it easy...

Yust my 2 eurocents.
-- 
Jakub Narebski
Warsaw, Poland
ShadeHawk on #git

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-11-20 23:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-19 13:05 Git in a Nutshell guide Jonas Juselius
2007-11-19 13:29 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-11-19 14:33   ` Jonas Juselius
2007-11-22  8:22   ` David Kågedal
2007-11-23  9:28     ` Jakub Narebski
2007-11-19 15:02 ` Brian Downing
2007-11-19 15:03   ` Brian Downing
2007-11-19 15:48   ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-19 16:05 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-11-19 16:14   ` Jonas Juselius
2007-11-19 16:49     ` Benoit Sigoure
2007-11-19 22:01       ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-11-20 11:34       ` Jonas Juselius
2007-11-20 23:57       ` Jakub Narebski [this message]
2007-11-21 19:45         ` Jan Hudec
2007-11-21 21:32           ` Jakub Narebski
2007-11-22 16:37             ` jhud7196
2007-11-22 13:15   ` Jonas Juselius
2007-11-22 14:19     ` Jonathan del Strother
2007-11-22 14:24     ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-22 16:57     ` jhud7196
2007-11-19 16:45 ` Lars Hjemli
2007-11-19 16:56   ` Jonas Juselius
2007-11-19 16:57   ` Benoit Sigoure
2007-11-19 17:04     ` Lars Hjemli
2007-11-19 18:10       ` Benoit Sigoure
2007-11-19 18:13         ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-11-19 18:13         ` Matthieu Moy
2007-11-19 18:35           ` [PATCH] Doc fix for git-reflog: mention @{...} syntax, and <ref> in synopsys Matthieu Moy
2007-11-19 20:13             ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-19 20:28               ` Matthieu Moy
2007-11-19 20:31                 ` Matthieu Moy
2007-11-19 21:15           ` Git in a Nutshell guide Benoit Sigoure
2007-11-19 21:33             ` Matthieu Moy
2007-11-19 21:51               ` Benoit Sigoure
2007-11-19 22:23                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-11-19 22:29                 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-19 22:59                   ` Matthieu Moy
2007-11-19 23:07                     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-19 17:05     ` Matthieu Moy

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